[15.04 64Bit]-Stop Complaining About It...

David Lang david at lang.hm
Sun May 17 00:01:27 UTC 2015


On Sun, 17 May 2015, Girard Henri wrote:

> Le 17/05/2015 00:12, David Lang a écrit :
>> On Sat, 16 May 2015, Billie Walsh wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 05/16/2015 05:24 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
>>>> On 05/16/2015 04:01 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>>>>> We do not *ever* advocate every Kubuntu user to upgrade when they are
>>>>> happy with what they have. Plasma 5.3 is running very well for me.
>>>>> Please please please file bugs when you encounter them, or comment on
>>>>> already filed bug reports, in launchpad if it is packaging mistakes,
>>>>> in bugs.kde.org for problems upstream.
>>>> "Some settings not preserved across sessions"
>>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343875
>>>> 
>>>> "I cannot set my short date to YYYY-MM-DD, nor my time to HH:MM"
>>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
>>>> 
>>>> Having made the obligatory references to my pet bugs again, I will say
>>>> that I seriously considered switching to MATE, but in the end found it
>>>> less polished than KDE. Despite some shortcomings, Plasma 5 is still the
>>>> most gorgeous and feature-rich desktop out there on any operating
>>>> system, and I'm sticking with it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> When your riding on the cutting edge expect to get bloody.
>> 
>> Fedora is supposed to be the bleeding edge, or running from PPAs ahead of 
>> normal releases. Ubuntu releases are not supposed to be bleeding edge. Is 
>> Kubuntu redefining this and saying that Kubuntu is only supposed to be 
>> reliable if you run LTS releases and non-LTS releases are only for those 
>> who want to be bleeding edge? If this is the case, I think that you are 
>> going to drive away a lot of users. What is the advantage of running Ubuntu 
>> instead of Fedora as a base? Fedora tends to push for newer versions of 
>> things than Ubuntu does, so if you are after the latest and hopefully 
>> greatest, it would be a better base to work from than Ubuntu.
>> 
>> David Lan
> I like fedora too... But compiling is not so easy as in ubuntu, often one 
> can't find libs. In fact when used to one distro, less drawbacks.

I actually don't like Fedora because they are more interested in experimenting 
with things that keeping them usable for the users. I use Ubuntu instead of 
Debian because Debian doesn't update frequently enough (without going to sid 
with all the disadvantages of Fedora). Ubuntu's 6 month cycle of tested, 
reliable releases has been a good middle ground. But if Kubuntu is redefining 
this, I don't see where it fits. If you are happy with 2+ year release cycles, 
use Debian. If you want bleeding edge, use Fedora. What niche is Kubuntu trying 
to fill if the non-LTS releases are supposed to be treated as bleeding edge?

Is it really just Fedora-type policies with .deb packages?

David Lang


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