windows not preserved across sessions

[O. Sinclair]

On 25/04/2015 20:34, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 2:27 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25/04/2015 10:48, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>> This and issues like not having different widgets on virtual desktops
>>>> stops me dead. So I tried Activities instead and the keyboard switch
>>>> shortcuts do not work, at least in the VM setup I am testing it in.
>>>>
>>>> No for me this is a TOO early release by Kubuntu, no matter how
>>>> "shiny" Plasma 5 may be. I will keep the VM running to see if at a
>>>> later stage with upgrades it improves enough for me.
>>>
>>> If it was for an LTS release, I would agree that it is too early, but
>>> for one of the intermediary releases I think it is good to have the
>>> early version of plasma5. This way there is a chance that issues are
>>> found and hopefully fixed soon. I think I'll install 15.04 in a VM to
>>> find out which of my favourite features are missing.
>>>
>>
>> Well, I dont want to sit on 14.04 until 16.04 for a number of reasons
>> and will follow the move over to Plasma5 of course. But I still think
>> this is too "bleeding edge" to be made the main desktop environment in a
>> release. Something along the lines of what was done in 14.10 where you
>> had both options would have been better.
>>
>> I run it in a VM, so perhaps if in later maintenance updates it improves
>> I will upgrade, otherwise I think it will be 15.10 for me
> 
> My vote was for Plasma 5 for 15.04, because:
> 
>  *We do not have the people to support both Plasma 4 & 5 packaging and CI.
> 
>  *We are supporting the LTS for 5 years.
> 
>  *It is mostly ready for general use.
> 
> It is fine to complain here, or ask for help here, but also file bugs,
> please. Filing bugs is one of the most important ways to contribute
> both in Kubuntu (packaging bugs on Launchpad, via `ubuntu-bug
> packagename` in the konsole) and in KDE (http://bugs.kde.org).
> 
> The developers can't read all the lists, so complaining here doesn't
> help get things fixed. Filing bugs is important for software
> improvement.
> 
> We can always use more folks in the Kubuntu crew to help with triaging
> bug reports, writing or editing documentation, translations and of
> course packaging.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Valorie, one member of your Kubuntu Council
> 
Dear Valorie, we simply have different "angles". I have one computer and
I need it for production use. I can not stay on LTS as I need later
software versions in my job that deals with IT.

>From my angle a release needs to be stable rather than bleeding edge. If
I wanted bleeding edge I would go Fedora or something. I would have
voted "hang on to KDE4 until 15.10" if such an option existed.

Filing bugs is fine and I do, not all the time but now and then. But I
can't file bugs on "beta" versions as I can not use them in production
and find little time to sit in a VM and "play around".

No offence meant to the devs of Plasma5, the same discussion arose when
KDE4 was introduced. I think Plasma5 should have stayed in "beta" stage
a bit longer.

And of course users discuss their problems on a user mailing list?

Kind regards,
Sinclair