Update to the Community

Juan R. de Silva juan.r.d.silva at gmail.com
Wed May 30 03:34:10 UTC 2012


On Mon, 28 May 2012 20:37:43 -0500, Ryan Gauger wrote:

> On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone.
>>
>> I know that it has been a while since I have made any updates to you
>> guys.
>>
>> Earlier this month, developer Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS
>> (Ubuntu Developer Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with
>> Canonical about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed
>> or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what happened and
>> where we are at in this Trademark thing.
>>
>> For starters, I know that there has been a lot of talk about changing
>> the name of Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the
>> name. Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case scenario.
>> Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I cannot see any reasons
>> we would change our name.
>>
>> Another thing I want address and make very clear is the role Blue
>> Systems is playing in Kubuntu.
>>
>> Blue Systems is a small company that is paying people to develop key
>> pieces of the KDE ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary
>> role. They are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the
>> hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by Canonical as
>> well.
>>
>> Now I can hear everyone now, "But didn't they drop sponsorship of
>> Kubuntu that started this whole thing?"
>>
>> Sort of.
>>
>> What Canonical dropped was COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means
>> that companies can no longer buy paid support from Canonical for
>> Kubuntu. It means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned
>> within the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that
>> Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for Kubuntu.
>>
>> Canonical still pays for a lot in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and
>> providing the infastructer that we have, provides the iso spinning
>> services, QA tools, sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33
>> countries for the name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection
>> but, full on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of this.
>>
>> So as you can see, our relationship has not chnaged all that much
>> within the Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some
>> changes but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly
>> believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything else.
>>
>> There are talks about Kubuntu being able to create a non profit
>> foundation to become a legal entity. This will allow the Kubuntu
>> council to push Kubuntu to new heighths and also allow us to do a few
>> very important things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it
>> will also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a budget
>> and receive finactial support.
>>
>> From a developers view, we are moving from the msin repositories and
>> inti universe. This will give us more freedom of what we can include
>> into our distro.
>>
>> Overall, I think we can all see how much better and stronger we can be
>> when this is all said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident
>> that not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet
>> but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large ways.
>>
>> Another amazing thing that happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE
>> opportunity to push Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto
>> actual tablet hardware.
>>
>> ZaReason is a company here in the US that builds and ships computers
>> with Linux, Ubuntu and distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they
>> will be selling the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of
>> the iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it. Well,
>> we were given a couple of these tablets to development reasons so that
>> we can also give them the option to ship Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them
>> at the end of the year. This is very very exciting for us as it moves
>> us ahead in the tablet ready distros.
>>
>> If you have any questions please, feel free to ask them.
>>
>> Cheers all!
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
> Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu
> pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm glad I
> bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks! <html>
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>     On 05/28/2012 06:14 PM, David Wonderly wrote: <blockquote
>     cite="mid:1679029.OkPhZlXy5K at wing" type="cite">
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>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Hey everyone.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
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>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">I know that it has been a
>           while since I have made any updates to you guys.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Earlier this month, developer
>           Jonathan Riddle and I were both at UDS (Ubuntu Developer
>           Summit) and during that time we had a meeting with Canonical
>           about the trademark. While not all of the paperwork is signed
>           or finalized just yet, I wanted to update everyone on what
>           happened and where we are at in this Trademark
>           thing.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">For starters, I know that
>           there has been a lot of talk about changing the name of
>           Kubuntu. As of right now there are plans to change the name.
>           Any name change talks were to prepare for a worst case
>           scenario. Seeing how well the talks went with Canonical, I
>           cannot see any reasons we would change our name.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Another thing I want address
>           and make very clear is the role Blue Systems is playing in
>           Kubuntu.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Blue Systems is a small
>           company that is paying people to develop key pieces of the KDE
>           ecosphere. This means that their role is a monetary role. They
>           are helping to sponsor the development of Kubuntu with the
>           hiring of Jonathan Riddell. Kubuntu is still sponsored by
>           Canonical as well. </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Now I can hear everyone now,
>           "But didn't they drop sponsorship of Kubuntu that started this
>           whole thing?" </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Sort of.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">What Canonical dropped was
>           COMMERCIAL support of Kubuntu. This means that companies can
>           no longer buy paid support from Canonical for Kubuntu. It
>           means that Jonathan Riddell was going to be reassigned within
>           the Desktop Team at Canonical. And lastly, it means that
>           Canonical will no longer be making Swag or Pressed CDs for
>           Kubuntu.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Canonical still pays for a lot
>           in Kubuntu. The hosting of code and providing the infastructer
>           that we have, provides the iso spinning services, QA tools,
>           sponsorships to UDS, Trakemark fees for 33 countries for the
>           name Kubuntu (not just under the *buntu protection but, full
>           on Kubuntu) and lastly, the legal protection for all of
>           this.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">So as you can see, our
>           relationship has not chnaged all that much within the
>           Kubuntu/Canonical relations. Yes, there has been some changes
>           but, there are benifits to the changing as well and I firmly
>           believe that the benifits greatly outweigh anything
>           else.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">There are talks about Kubuntu
>           being able to create a non profit foundation to become a legal
>           entity. This will allow the Kubuntu council to push Kubuntu to
>           new heighths and also allow us to do a few very important
>           things. it will allow us to build a Kubuntu store and it will
>           also allow us to take donations, money to be placed in a
>           budget and receive finactial support. </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">From a developers view, we are
>           moving from the msin repositories and inti universe. This will
>           give us more freedom of what we can include into our distro.
>           </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Overall, I think we can all
>           see how much better and stronger we can be when this is all
>           said and done. Working together, I am beyond confident that
>           not only can we make Kubuntu the best KDE distro on the planet
>           but, we can put Kubuntu on the map in very large
>           ways.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Another amazing thing that
>           happened is that Kubuntu was given an HUGE opportunity to push
>           Kubuntu Active (KDE Plasma Active for tablet) onto actual
>           tablet hardware. </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">ZaReason is a company here in
>           the US that builds and ships computers with Linux, Ubuntu and
>           distros, preinstalled. Later this year, they will be selling
>           the ZaTab. It's a tablet with the same size and feel of the
>           iPad2. It already will be shipping with CyanogenMod 9 on it.
>           Well, we were given a couple of these tablets to development
>           reasons so that we can also give them the option to ship
>           Kubuntu Active 12.10 on them at the end of the year. This is
>           very very exciting for us as it moves us ahead in the tablet
>           ready distros. </span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">If you have any questions
>           please, feel free to ask them.</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Cheers all!</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px;
>         margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;
>         -qt-user-state:0;"><span style=" font-family:'Times New Roman';
>           font-size:12pt; color:#000000;">Dave</span></p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px;
>         margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;
>         -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; "> </p>
>       <br>
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>     Does this mean that I will no longer be able to purchase Kubuntu
>     pens/stickers/shirts in the Canonical Store as well? If not, I'm
>     glad I bought some Kubuntu merchandise already! Thanks!<br>
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I wonder if it is really so difficult to stop posting in HTML? It's quite 
impossible to read your posts. 

Basically you hurt yourself, since a lot of Linux users just ignore such 
posts.

Thank you.





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