Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details

Ryan Gauger rtgkid at gmail.com
Sun May 20 18:25:30 UTC 2012


Good afternoon,

From what I know or understand, there is no way to stop for VGA. I'm sorry I cannot be of more help right now. Thanks! Have a great week!

On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 AM, tobias schwibingerr <whyskyhigh at yahoo.de> wrote:

> 
> good afternoon
> 
> thank You for help.
> I can interrupt any booting of any ubuntu or kubuntu
> with f2 and say German 
> is there no way to stop also for vga.?
> 
> 
> 
> because if I would not stop  z is y and y is z because I live in Frankfurt
> 
> regards
> whysky
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> schrieb am Sa, 19.5.2012:
> 
> Von: Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID II more details
> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> CC: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 14:52 Uhr
> 
> Good morning, Tobias.
> 
> I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot.
> 
> For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. Since you are new with Linux, you printable don't know about Lubuntu, which would be your best option for doing this. Ubuntu/Kubuntu are resource-hungry. For this reason, I do not recommend installing these on an old computer or laptop. Xubuntu will work, since XFCE is not resource-hungry. Allow me to introduce Lubuntu to you, to make things even more complicated. Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment, which is extremely lightweight, and is not resource-hungry at all. Lubuntu is known for working on laptops/computers so old that Windows doesn't even work anymore on them. You can install Lubuntu alongside Windows ME, or completely erase the hard drive and install Lubuntu, allowing Lubuntu to take up the whole drive. I think I've made this email long enough for now. Sorry :) Thanks!
> 
> In Christ,
> Ryan
> 
> On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr <whyskyhigh at yahoo.de> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> good morning ryan
>> thank You for Your friendly answer.
>> 
>> Is there a way to interrupt the booting 
>> and tell
>> 
>> hey computer my graphik card is may only   1000 points
>> you need  1000000 maybe hd 
>> can You tell linux
>> to change his ask for the monitor?
>> 
>> 
>> thank You
>> 
>> whysky
>> 
>> the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy
>> and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions.
>> 
>> 
>> another question:
>> can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu
>> with very old alptop
>> 12 years old
>> bought with win me.
>> 
>> can I user ocelot?
>> 
>> 
>> what is difference lucid and ocelot
>> because
>> january 2012 both are new.
>> 
>> what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support
>> is it like
>> gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98?
>> 
>> 
>> PS
>> is it possible 
>> to boot kubuntu in text modus?
>> 
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>> --- Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012:
>> 
>> Von: Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com>
>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID
>> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr
>> 
>> On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote:
>>> 
>>> good afternoon ryan
>>> 
>>> thank You for help.
>>> 
>>> is it to custom here to write to all members
>>> or call one person 
>>> now ryan?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> the situation
>>> 
>>> I put in
>>> live CD
>>> SuSe
>>> BSD
>>> Ocelot....
>>> 
>>> the machine is starting and running text modus.
>>> ok
>>> then linux is changing to grafik mode
>>> then
>>> crash black screen
>>> 
>>> or frozen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hardy=no problem
>>> ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine.
>>> 
>>> why?
>>> I dont know.
>>> I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to grafik
>>> ocelot does not check it and crash.
>>> 
>>> Can You understand this?
>>> 
>>> thank You for help
>>> 
>>> 
>>> whysky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012:
>>> 
>>> Von: Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com>
>>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID
>>> An: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr
>>> 
>>> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions you have. I think I can answer the first half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second question. Do you get past the boot screen with Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to boot into different operating systems (different versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between                         the different operating systems by using the down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the selected operating system. Do you know this is a                         VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you install VGA driver software, you are installing this inside the operating system, not GRUB. Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the                         problem will still persist with GRUB, even after installing driver software.
>>> 
>>> For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked in Ubuntu Forums or Ask Ubuntu. I hope this helps!
>>> 
>>> In Christ,
>>> Ryan
>>> 
>>> On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> good morning
>>>> I am very new with linux.
>>>> 
>>>> but I can use evolution and firefox and this is better than win
>>>> online
>>>> 
>>>> my question:
>>>> I only can boot hardy
>>>> but not lucid or ocelot
>>>> it is a vga problem.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> is f4 the right way?
>>>> 
>>>> shall I mail lspci oder lshal?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> second question
>>>> is this a community for linux and ubuntu and xubuntu and so on
>>>> or only for kubuntu.
>>>> 
>>>> thank your forwarf for help
>>>> 
>>>> whysky
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --- Kaj Haulrich <kaj at haulrich.net> schrieb am Fr, 18.5.2012:
>>>> 
>>>> Von: Kaj Haulrich <kaj at haulrich.net>
>>>> Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot from ASUS P8P67 PRO
>>>> An: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>> Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 07:08 Uhr
>>>> 
>>>> On 05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux User wrote:
>>>> > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM,                                           Kaj Haulrich wrote:
>>>> >> On 05/17/2012 10:27 PM, Linux User wrote:
>>>> >>> Asus P8P67 pro is not booting into Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has UEFI...It
>>>> >>> boots into Windows only. Kubuntu's grub was installed on sda (the
>>>> >>> only HDD)
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> You will have to reinstall, this time telling the installer to put
>>>> >> grub on the EFI-partition.
>>>> > 
>>>> > which one will be EFI partition? How to find? It's                                           dual boot with
>>>> > Windows on sda1 and Ubuntu installed on sda2
>>>> 
>>>> I guess there must be a way to see the EFI partition from inside Windows - sometimes called the 'system' or 'hidden' partition. Not sure                                           though, because first thing I do with a new computer is to erase Windows completely.
>>>> 
>>>> However, on a EFI-system, when installing Linux you'll have to create an EFI partition (around 100 MB) anyway and put grub-efi on it. On my system that is sda2.  As far as I can tell there is no way of getting rid of this UEFI rigmarole and revert to the good, old BIOS.
>>>> 
>>>> There is some further information here:
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
>>>> 
>>>> Kaj Haulrich.
>>>> -- --- Sent from a 100% Microsoft-free computer---
>>>> --------- Running Linux Kubuntu 12.04 ---------
>>>> 
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>> Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on     the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so everybody is in the loop on what is going on.
>> 
>> If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot? Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks!
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