<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Good afternoon,</div><div><br></div><div>From what I know or understand, there is no way to stop for VGA. I'm sorry I cannot be of more help right now. Thanks! Have a great week!<br><br>On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 AM, tobias schwibingerr <<a href="mailto:whyskyhigh@yahoo.de">whyskyhigh@yahoo.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><br>good afternoon<div><br></div><div>thank You for help.</div><div>I can interrupt any booting of any ubuntu or kubuntu</div><div>with f2 and say German </div><div>is there no way to stop also for vga.?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>because if I would not stop  z is y and y is z because I live in Frankfurt</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div>whysky</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>--- Ryan Gauger <i><<a href="mailto:rtgkid@gmail.com">rtgkid@gmail.com</a>></i> schrieb am <b>Sa, 19.5.2012:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>Von: Ryan Gauger <<a href="mailto:rtgkid@gmail.com">rtgkid@gmail.com</a>><br>Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot  OCELOT LUCID   II more details<br>An: "Kubuntu user technical support" <<a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>><br>CC: "Kubuntu user technical
 support" <<a href="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>><br>Datum: Samstag, 19. Mai, 2012 14:52 Uhr<br><br><div id="yiv1955027227"><div><div>Good morning, Tobias.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think there is a way to interrupt the boot unless you were to use command line (which I am not good with at all unless it is sudo). Your suggestion would probably work if you could figure out how to interrupt boot.</div><div><br></div><div>For your second question, yes. You can install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu on an old laptop. Since you are new with Linux, you printable don't know about Lubuntu, which would be your best option for doing this. Ubuntu/Kubuntu are resource-hungry. For this reason, I do not recommend installing these on an old computer or laptop. Xubuntu will work, since XFCE is not resource-hungry. Allow me to introduce Lubuntu to you, to make things even more complicated. Lubuntu uses the LXDE desktop environment, which is extremely lightweight, and is not
 resource-hungry at all. Lubuntu is known for working on laptops/computers so old that Windows doesn't even work anymore on them. You can install Lubuntu alongside Windows ME, or completely erase the hard drive and install Lubuntu, allowing Lubuntu to take up the whole drive. I think I've made this email long enough for now. Sorry :) Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>In Christ,</div><div>Ryan<br><br>On May 19, 2012, at 3:03 AM, tobias schwibingerr <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:whyskyhigh@yahoo.de" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=whyskyhigh@yahoo.de">whyskyhigh@yahoo.de</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div><br></div><div><br></div><br>good morning ryan<div>thank You for Your friendly answer.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there a way to interrupt the booting </div><div>and tell</div><div><br></div><div>hey
 computer my graphik card is may only   1000 points</div><div>you need  1000000 maybe hd </div><div>can You tell linux</div><div>to change his ask for the monitor?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>thank You</div><div><br></div><div>whysky</div><div><br></div><div>the problem ist not generic or so is one version older hardy</div><div>and all other systems like SuSe crash even old versions.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>another question:</div><div>can I use ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu</div><div>with very old alptop</div><div>12 years old</div><div>bought with win me.</div><div><br></div><div>can I user
 ocelot?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>what is difference lucid and ocelot</div><div>because</div><div>january 2012 both are new.</div><div><br></div><div>what does mean: Hardy has no support but ocelot has support</div><div>is it like</div><div>gates gives support win 7 but noch win 98?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS</div><div>is it possible </div><div>to boot kubuntu in text modus?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>--- Ryan Gauger <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rtgkid@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=rtgkid@gmail.com">rtgkid@gmail.com</a>></i> schrieb am <b>Fr, 18.5.2012:<br><blockquote style="border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;"><br>Von: Ryan Gauger <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rtgkid@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=rtgkid@gmail.com">rtgkid@gmail.com</a>><br>Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot  OCELOT LUCID<br>An:
 <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 17:35 Uhr<br><br><div id="yiv1955027227">
  

    
  
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    On 05/18/2012 09:51 AM, tobias schwibingerr wrote:
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            <td style="font:inherit;" valign="top">good afternoon ryan
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              <div>thank You for help.</div>
              <div><br>
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              <div>is it to custom here to write to all members</div>
              <div>or call one person </div>
              <div>now ryan?</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
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              <div><br>
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              <div>the situation</div>
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              <div>I put in</div>
              <div>live CD</div>
              <div>SuSe</div>
              <div>BSD</div>
              <div>Ocelot....</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>the machine is starting and running text modus.</div>
              <div>ok</div>
              <div>then linux is changing to grafik mode</div>
              <div>then</div>
              <div>crash black screen</div>
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              <div>or frozen.</div>
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              <div>hardy=no problem</div>
              <div>ubuntu older than hardy also booting fine.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>why?</div>
              <div>I dont know.</div>
              <div>I suggest, hardy is checking vga before changing to
                grafik</div>
              <div>ocelot does not check it and crash.</div>
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              <div>Can You understand this?</div>
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              <div>thank You for help</div>
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              <div>whysky</div>
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                --- Ryan Gauger <i><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><rtgkid@gmail.com></a></i> schrieb
                am <b>Fr, 18.5.2012:<br>
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                    Von: Ryan Gauger <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><rtgkid@gmail.com></a><br>
                    Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot OCELOT LUCID<br>
                    An: <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-abbreviated">kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
                    Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012 16:08 Uhr<br>
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                      <div> Good morning, Tobias. Very good questions
                        you have. I think I can answer the first
                        half-way, and I am sure I can answer your second
                        question. Do you get past the boot screen with
                        Oneiric and Lucid? In the boot screen (GRUB), to
                        boot into different operating systems (different
                        versions of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/etc, Windows
                        or other OS), when inside GRUB, select between
                        the different operating systems by using the
                        down and up keys on the keyboard. Then, press
                        the enter/return key on the keyboard to boot the
                        selected operating system. Do you know this is a
                        VGA problem? If so, I have no clue how to solve
                        this, unless you install drivers for VGA. If you
                        install VGA driver software, you are installing
                        this inside the operating system, not GRUB.
                        Therefore, if this is a GRUB problem, the
                        problem will still persist with GRUB, even after
                        installing driver software.<br>
                        <br>
                        For your second question, this is a Kubuntu-only
                        support centre. Ubuntu questions should be asked
                        in <font color="#3333ff"><u><a rel="nofollow">Ubuntu
                              Forums</a></u></font> or <font color="#3333ff"><u><a rel="nofollow">Ask Ubuntu</a></u></font>.
                        I hope this helps!<br>
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                        In Christ,<br>
                        Ryan<br>
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                        On 05/18/2012 08:13 AM, tobias schwibingerr
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                                  good morning
                                  <div>I am very new with linux.</div>
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>but I can use evolution and
                                    firefox and this is better than win</div>
                                  <div>online</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>my question:</div>
                                  <div>I only can boot hardy</div>
                                  <div>but not lucid or ocelot</div>
                                  <div>it is a vga problem.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>is f4 the right way?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>shall I mail lspci oder lshal?</div>
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>second question</div>
                                  <div>is this a community for linux and
                                    ubuntu and xubuntu and so on</div>
                                  <div>or only for kubuntu.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>thank your forwarf for help</div>
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>whysky</div>
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                                    --- Kaj Haulrich <i><a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><kaj@haulrich.net></a></i>
                                    schrieb am <b>Fr, 18.5.2012:<br>
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                                        Von: Kaj Haulrich <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><kaj@haulrich.net></a><br>
                                        Betreff: Re: Ubuntu can't boot
                                        from ASUS P8P67 PRO<br>
                                        An: "Kubuntu user technical
                                        support" <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1955027227moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com></a><br>
                                        Datum: Freitag, 18. Mai, 2012
                                        07:08 Uhr<br>
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                                        <div class="yiv1955027227plainMail">On
                                          05/18/2012 01:06 AM, Linux
                                          User wrote:<br>
                                          > On 05/17/2012 11:34 PM,
                                          Kaj Haulrich wrote:<br>
                                          >> On 05/17/2012 10:27
                                          PM, Linux User wrote:<br>
                                          >>> Asus P8P67 pro is
                                          not booting into
                                          Kubuntu/Ubuntu. it has
                                          UEFI...It<br>
                                          >>> boots into
                                          Windows only. Kubuntu's grub
                                          was installed on sda (the<br>
                                          >>> only HDD)<br>
                                          >> <br>
                                          >> You will have to
                                          reinstall, this time telling
                                          the installer to put<br>
                                          >> grub on the
                                          EFI-partition.<br>
                                          > <br>
                                          > which one will be EFI
                                          partition? How to find? It's
                                          dual boot with<br>
                                          > Windows on sda1 and
                                          Ubuntu installed on sda2<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I guess there must be a way to
                                          see the EFI partition from
                                          inside Windows - sometimes
                                          called the 'system' or
                                          'hidden' partition. Not sure
                                          though, because first thing I
                                          do with a new computer is to
                                          erase Windows completely.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          However, on a EFI-system, when
                                          installing Linux you'll have
                                          to create an EFI partition
                                          (around 100 MB) anyway and put
                                          grub-efi on it. On my system
                                          that is sda2.  As far as I can
                                          tell there is no way of
                                          getting rid of this UEFI
                                          rigmarole and revert to the
                                          good, old BIOS.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          There is some further
                                          information here:<br>
                                          <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting</a><br>
                                          <br>
                                          Kaj Haulrich.<br>
                                          -- --- Sent from a 100%
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                                          Kubuntu 12.04 ---------<br>
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    Good afternoon, I hope your day is going well. I usually will
    reply-all, if that is what you mean. This is because other people on
    the list can see my emails and if I say something wrong or
    incorrect, they can reply and correct it. I also do it just so
    everybody is in the loop on what is going on.<br>
    <br>
    If Oneiric (and newer) crash after trying to boot, and hardy (and
    older) boot fine, then it must be an internal error, or an error
    that is in the system when Oneiric/newer boots. It may very well be
    the VGA problem as you suggest. I have never experienced this, so I
    am able to give you information to the best of my abilities without
    being able to see what you are seeing, so if I don't solve the
    problem or figure out an answer, I am sorry. Does Persistent boot?
    Persistent is the newest stable version of Kubuntu. Thanks!<br>
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