12.04 is the worst yet

[Basil Chupin]

On 16/05/12 06:08, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 15/05/12 15:31, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>> On 15/05/12 14:10, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>>>> Because Thunderbird hurts even more (IMHO). I had a brief look at
>>>>> Thunderbird recently, and to me it looks worse than it did the
>>>>> last time I tried it (some years ago).
>>>> Which, of course, requires two questions to be asked:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Which version of Thunderbird; and
>>> The version coming with 12.04.
>> Which is....?
> Well, you are the TB expert here :) and therefore you should know that
> Kubuntu installs the current version.

Well, since I don't run 12.04 I couldn't possibly know which version it 
installs. I am only a trainee-psychic at the moment and fully qualified.

>   But I checked it, it is 12.0.1.

Thanks. (Now, that wasn't too difficult was it? :-) .


> 2. Why did it "[look] worse than it did the last time" during your
> cursory/fleeting look at it?
> I don't remember now, but I'll try it again and then I'll answer
> that question.
>> That would be great. Not only would it give me some idea of what may
>> have grieved you but others as well who may be thinking of switching
>> to something which actually works.
> 1. The configuration page offers a start page URL? I thought TB is an
> email clinet, not a browser.
>
> 2. The configuration page offers add-ons - again it looks too much like
> a browser to me. One of the add-ons is adblock plus - what does that
> have to do with email?
>
> 3. There is an option to accept cookies? Again, what does that have to
> do with an email client?

I'll answer all these 3 as one question.

When you first install Thunderbird it runs whatever you have as the 
default browser - eg, Firefox if that is your default or Konqueror if 
that's the default browser. This is done to show you the page which 
gives you not only a Welcome screen but also gives you information about 
what is available - as Add-ons for example. No mysteries here.

Thunderbird is a mail client and handles e-mail - and this e-mail can be 
either in ASCII format or in HTML format hence the possible need to use 
AdBlock (as well as other security extensions - if you are in the habit 
of opening e-mails from unknown persons/sources).

And as far as cookies are concerned, I am subscribed to a newletter 
which I receive daily. The newsletter comes in 2 formats: ASCII or HTML; 
and if I read it in the latter format (which is what I prefer) I get a 
cookie which does 2 things: 1) it checks that I am a subscriber and 2) 
it then knows that I want to read it in HTML format the next time I go 
to read it in Thunderbird. Again, nothing mysterious about this.


> Granted, those three points are not too important but at least it looks
> unappealing to me.
>
> 4. I want to import mails from kmail. Well, I know that TB doesn't
> understand maildir, so I copied some mails to a new mbox folder before I
> started TB. But how can I import those mails? While there is an import
> option, it doesn't seem to do anything - at least I couldn't convince it
> to give me a file dialog to search for the mbox file with the mails I
> have saved.

I think the answer lies here:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=290125

but as I have never used kmail I can only assume that the solution 
offered was successful to the person who raised the question.

> Of course it isn't useful to continue testing at this point. I have a
> lot of saved mails that I don't want to throw away. So obviously TB is
> not usable for me.

Obviously.....

BC

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