Bug? with 10.11 Plasma/Plasmoids

[Jon Piper]

uteck and other enlightened unix nuts,

I think you hit the nail on the head.  I have had NO luck with network 
manager.  Until I found wicd, I had no joy.  I think the difference in 
hardware.  On my AMD desktop network manager works; on our four Intel 
based laptop It will not work -- I don't know how many hours I have 
wasted trying to get network manager to be reliable on these laptops but 
"wicd" works.  I have been using Kubuntu since version 6.?? but departed 
to  Linux Mint when Kubuntu 11.10 had video problems -- unreliable 
mouse, etc....

If you look for adventure -- get a new version of Linux -- once you get 
it fixed you will have a friend until you look for more adventure.  
Windoze is too much adventure for me -- that has been true since Windows 
3.00 and Windoze 7 isn't much better.

Blessings,

Jon Piper
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On 11/17/2011 09:33 AM, uteck wrote:
> If you are still using the default network manager, have you tried 
> replacing it?  My desktop at home has a static IP and works fine and 
> my laptop runs wicd which I think is more stable then network mangler.
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Mark Greenwood <fatgerman at gmail.com 
> <mailto:fatgerman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I've noticed this. I think there are two bugs.
>
>     Firstly I notice on a couple of machines that the internet
>     connection will refuse to come up if I do a 'Restart'. Only a full
>     power-off power-on cycle works. I initially logged a bug about
>     this in the Beta relating to there being no ethernet after resume
>     from sleep but there's been no activity on it from the devs and I
>     gave up. It's a bug in network manager and it was working in the
>     early Betas but got broken about a week before release.
>
>     The thing with the plasmoids is trickier to track down. Again,
>     this has only started recently (it doesn't happen on my natty
>     machine running the same version of KDE) so I suspect it's
>     something lower down and not a problem with plasma itself.
>
>     In your case your internet connection simply died overnight. I've
>     not noticed this (was it wired or wireless? I don't use wireless
>     as it's been flaky beyond belief since natty). Given what I've
>     uncovered about network manager recently I wonder if your network
>     controller has some kind of power-save mode it slips into after a
>     long period of inactivity -this could potentially invoke the same
>     bug I've found with sleep mode.
>
>     Mark
>
>     On 17 Nov 2011, at 11:54, Nigel Ridley wrote:
>
>     > This is 10.11 Oneiric.
>     >
>     > Before I file a bug I want to be able to narrow it down a bit
>     and was wondering if anyone else had noticed the following (or
>     similar):
>     >
>     > Woke up this morning to no internet connection and a dead
>     plasma-desktop (it was black behind a running Thunderbird window).
>     At first I tried 'F2 > plasma-desktop' which sort of worked for a
>     moment then got 'stuck'. I couldn't access the 'logout' feature
>     and resorted to 'Alt + Ctrl + F1' to get to a tty and issued "sudo
>     halt'. I rebooted the laptop, logged in and the plasma-desktop got
>     stuck again with the small 'desktop loading' splash screen stuck
>     in the middle of a half loaded desktop (I could see the kicker bar
>     and a couple of non-kde apps running as well as a couple of
>     [internet accessing] plasmoids. The internet connection was still
>     down. Couldn't do anything - not even 'Alt + Ctrl + F1' so had to
>     hit the power button.
>     > I tried renaming, from tty1, .kde to kdeOLD and then .kdeGOOD to
>     .kde then logged into kde but still had the same problems. I then
>     decided to start afresh and renamed.kde to kde01, then logged back
>     into a clean plasma-desktop :-)
>     >
>     > When the internet connection came back on I then put things back
>     the way they were with my backup copy of my original .kde (with
>     all my [internet accessing] plasmoids) and everything was OK again.
>     >
>     > So why, when there is no internect connection, and [internet
>     accessing] plasmoids running, does plasma-desktop refuse to load
>     properly?
>     > Where would I look for a 'bug' and how to reproduce it?
>     >
>     > Nigel
>     >
>     > P.S. Sorry for the long explanation.
>     >
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