OT: html anchors (was Re: Grub screen when booting)

Basil Chupin blchupin at iinet.net.au
Wed Jan 26 07:23:41 UTC 2011


On 26/01/2011 16:47, Waleed Hamra wrote:
> On 01/26/2011 07:07 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>> On 25/01/2011 17:51, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>> On 25/01/2011 16:29, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>>>> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring%20GRUB%202>.
>>>> Now, this is a most interesting thing which I don't believe that I
>>>> have noticed before (I often check my own posts and have never
>>>> noticed this behaviour, or, at the least, paid attention to).
>>>>
>>>> Clicking on the URL you provided above doesn't take *me* to the
>>>> BEGINNING of that Ubuntu doco. entry but to the point/spot at which
>>>> it appears that you *copied*/saved the URL and which is some screen
>>>> pages down from the beginning of the article you quote above in your
>>>> post.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder why this is so?
>>> There is no magic involved - have a closer look at the URL. Everything
>>> before the "#" character is the URL for the page and the part after the
>>> "#" is the pointer within that page. At the beginning of the page there
>>> are some links to individual paragraphs and I used one of those links. I
>>> simply copied the link from the address bar to the mail.
>>>
>>>> I can see that you are using Kmail for your mail but don't know what
>>>> you are using as a browser. Is this where the answer lies :-) ? (I
>>>> use FF as the browser.)
>>> Usually I use konqueror sometimes rekonq and seldom FF - but it has
>>> nothing to do with the browser.
>> Most interesting..... Something to do with UFOs perhaps (Unidentified
>> Firefox Operations)? :-)
>>
>> I have now done at least 10 tests taking a copy of the URL showing on
>> various pages of various articles on various online news sources, sent
>> the URLs to myself in e-mail(s), shutdown Firefox for each test
>> (shutting FF clears its cache on my set-up), clicked on the URL using
>> Thunderbird I just sent myself - and in each and every case what
>> appeared in FF was the beginning of the article and not the page where I
>> copied the URL.
>>
>> BC
>>
> i dont think you understood anchors.

Obviously not....


>   it's not about where *you* were
> browsing when you copied the URL. it's about what you copied.

Oh, it's not *where* I was but what I copied, eh?


>   go to some
> ubuntu tutorial, anyone, like the grub one above, or some other similar
> page. and copy the link from the INDEX. there's an index in every ubuntu
> page, somewhere in the upper part of the page. copy the URL to one of
> the sections, or click it, to see its effect immediately.
> another example is wikipedia, all wikipedia pages have such index with
> links to the various sections of the page.

Well let me tell you something...

I went to the Wikipedia and 'asked' for the details of the American 
Constitution (I've been there before when arguing with red-necks), went 
to the very last page at which point I took a copy of the URL and then 
sent it to myself to see what I would see when I clicked on the URL in 
Thunderbird. This is the URL I copied at the end of the Wikipedia entry 
and sent myself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America

Guess what I saw, and what you will see, when you click on this URL?

The claim was made that it has nothing to do with the browser.

If it is not the browser, then what is it which is causing the results I 
am getting?

And I do not keep arguing a point without doing some testing to prove 
the results I get.

> for a better understanding, visit this link
> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html


"...a better understanding" or not, I get the results which I keep 
detailing here.

BC

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Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse.




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