A way to be rid or Akonadi, indexing, wallet, hpl*, nepomuk & useless drivers?

[Clay Weber]

Eric Lee Elliott wrote:
> On 05/15/2010 06:32 AM, Clay Weber wrote:
>> Eric Lee Elliott wrote:
>>> Is there a simple way to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu without 
Akonadi,
>>
>> No, it is tied tightly with KDE (no matter the distro)

> Makes me wonder about installing Linux, X, OpenOffice, Firefox,
> Thunderbird, VLC & some GNU programs. Must study this.
>>
No problem with these, akonadi is an actual KDE component, none 
of the 
above are tied into the desktop environment like that

>>> wallet
>>
>> Can't easily remove, but can very easily be disabled after the 
install.
>> (but imo having it by default is the wise choice, stolen or 
borowed
>> laptops without secure passwords are just two reason for this, 
having
>> been bit by these myself I no longer disable kwallet on my 
laptops but
>> do still disable on my desktop at home)
> Network passwords I lack. Other passwords are stored away from 
wallet.
> So far I have not studied wallet, have not spent more than half 
half
> hour trying to configure it to be useful instead of just fool. Why
> should I tolerate it demanding password to access open WIFI 
connection?
> Why should I tolerate it demanding password to access 3G 
connection that
> has no software password? ATT data connection has hardware
> authentication & SIM card, my UID & PWD fields are usually blank. 
Yes, I
> could play the game with wallet but too often connection fails due 
to
> wallet not playing well.
> I could learn wallet, maybe use it without it aperiodically wrecking 
my
> connections, to what gain? Passwords to credit unions & accounts 
are
> still in separate flash drive. Maybe I should search for "reasons to 
use
> wallet instead of"
>>

The wallet being enabled is just a default setting, one that errs on 
the 
side of security, and can either be disabled or adjusted to your liking.

>> , nepomuk,
>>
>> Also can be disabled after the install
> Disabled then remove several programs to get 4 programs out of 
process
> list.
> Same as hpl stuff, if not used, no HP hardware, why are HP 
processes in
> memory? Who are they serving?

linux tends to include many drivers and applications to support as 
much 
hardware as possible out of the box, the HP bits you see are helper 
apps, (not drivers iirc) that hp hardware needs, so they are serving 
the 
needs of the many people with HP printers, etc. These can be 
removed. 
Again this is just a default setup , one that many distros use to 
support as many people as possible


>> hpl*, IRC, IM & all the drivers that will never be used
>>> in my laptops?
>>
>> irc and im are not driver, but are just applications.
> Instant messaging & IRChat I never use & may have open ports?

Only if you *run* an im client or irc chat program.  Once again, this is 
a default set of included apps that many people use on a reggular 
basis. 
I don't think running an IM or irc *client* (as opposed to a server) 
has 
the port security implications you may be worrying about, especially 
as 
you don't run them anyway

> These can be
>> removed, and the package manager will also remove packages 
that are
>> required by what you are removing. If you are not sure what is 
safe or
>> not for the package manager to uninstall, post the list here and 
we can
>> help you determine.
>>
>> unused Drivers usually can be removed safely,
> Drivers are removable & key to making this T60 have stable video, 
just a
> nuisance to remove & keep from again install with updates or 
check &
> remove after large updates.
> but the above is also
>> something to take into account. Also note that unused drivers 
are not
>> actually loaded if they are not being used
> Look again @ hpl stuff...
> at least in the vast majority
>> of cases.
>>
>> clay
>>
>>>
>>> I have tried to remove software& drivers, often to be notified 
much
>>> other software will also be removed.

These may in fact be some small parts of the packages you are 
trying to 
remove, or some other application *requires* the thing you are 
trying to 
remove, so the package manager will remove them as well. That is 
why I 
suggested posting what is listed to be removed. Often those things 
are 
perfectly safe to remove, so that information would be helpful to us 
in 
guiding you.


>>> My question is due to functionality, not just to save disk space.
>>> NetworkManager is good after Wallet is disabled for each of 4 
computers.
>>> ATI video is stable after all the other video hardware drivers are
>>> removed from a Thinkpad T60.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>
>
> Maybe I should ask a friend these questions. He runs Slackware 
without
> desktop in China. Maybe his security situation drives his lack of 
desktop.

It could also well be a personal preference - Linux gives us the 
choices 
to do these things.

clay


> Thanks Clay.
>
> Eric
>
>