Kubuntu/Ubuntu does not remove everything from memory at shutdown

Steve Morris samorris at netspace.net.au
Sat Mar 13 01:22:35 UTC 2010

Isak Enström wrote:
> On 2010-03-12 02:02, Steve Morris wrote:
>> On 11/03/10 14:53, Pastor JW wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 10 March 2010 11:34:33 am Steve Morris wrote:
>>>> On 11/03/10 03:22, Juergen Sauer wrote:
>>>>> Am Freitag, 5. März 2010 schrieb Mark Greenwood:
>>>>>>> Looks like an pure Windows7 Problem. Ask them.
>>>>>> No it's not a Windows problem, I have the same. If I choose
>>>>>> 'Reboot' on
>>>>>> my laptop from within Kubuntu, then when the laptop comes back up I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> no ACPI functionality and no sound. I have to Shutdown and then switch
>>>>>> on again to do a proper reboot from within (K)Ubuntu. This does not
>>>>>> happen with Mandriva. However on my desktop system a reboot from
>>>>>> Kubuntu
>>>>>> works fine. I suspect it is an ACPI bug and I reported it to Ubuntu
>>>>>> about, oh, two millennia ago.
>>>>> Ofcours is it a Problem of the booting operation system if it can not
>>>>> correctla initialize the system's hardware.
>>>>> If a system is to be booted, a OS must be able to boot correctly.
>>>>> In this definition it is a clearly Windoze 7 problem.
>>>>> Jojo
>>>> No, it is not a Windows 7 problem, it is Kubuntu/Ubuntu not doing things
>>>> properly with the hardware when it shuts down.
>>> it is not shutting down that is the problem. Either the sound card is
>>> flaky
>>> in which case from time to time both Mandriva and Ubuntu would also
>>> fail to
>>> produce sound upon start-up OR the problem is with the OS not correctly
>>> initializing the sound card upon boot up. Any values left in componet
>>> parts
>>> are supposed to be reset to the values the OS requires when it boots the
>>> system up. Mandriva seems to handle this fine as does Ubuntu on your
>>> computer, the other one clearly seems unable to handle this usually
>>> simple
>>> task. Does it also re-display your previous OS's last monitor screens?
>> I don't get re-displays of previous OS's last monitor screens. This
>> issue is definitely a Kubuntu shutdown issue and not a Win 7 initialise
>> issue.
>> As I have said in another thread, I have to boot to Mandriva's kdm login
>> screen and warm boot from there to get sound under Win 7 because
>> Mandriva shuts down properly.
>> Also I am regularly in the situation of having to warm boot from Kubuntu
>> to Kubuntu to recover from crashes of the flaky compiz version being
>> used in Kubuntu, and having firefox tell me it can't start because the
>> version that was active when I warm booted Kubuntu is still in memory
>> and not responding and needs to be removed first.
>> regards,
>> Steve
> I once had a computer with Win 3.x on it. Sometimes the sound was lost 
> when I shut down a particular game (don't remember what game it was). 
> Warm rebooting didn't help, I had to shut down the computer completely 
> to get sound working again. None of my mates had this problem (with a 
> similar setup).
> Now I'm not saying that your experience is wrong, I just think you are 
> blaming the wrong part. Are you using an integrated sound card? If so, 
> you could try using another sound card (if you happen to have a spare one).
> By the way, were you saying that the sound is working when you boot into 
> Mandriva?
> /Isak
Yes, sound is working when I boot into Mandriva and is working when I 
warm boot into Win 7 from Mandriva. Sound does not work in Win 7 when I 
warm boot from Kubuntu.


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