smtp password for kmail does not remain.

[Steven Vollom]

On Thursday 28 January 2010 10:05:22 pm Clay Weber wrote:
> On Thursday 28 January 2010 08:59:03 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
> > --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Clay Weber <claydoh at midmaine.com> wrote:
> > > From: Clay Weber <claydoh at midmaine.com>
> > > Subject: Re: smtp password for kmail does not remain.
> > > To: "Kubuntu user technical support" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 10:14 AM
> > >
> > > Steven Vollom wrote:
> > > > This is the second time this has happened recently; I
> > >
> > > reinstalled Karmic to repair it last time, because the
> > > resolution was not found.
> > >
> > > > Kubuntu Karmic 9.10, KDE 4.3.4, quad core AMD 64bit,
> > >
> > > Kmail 1.12.4.
> > >
> > > > att.yahoo.com confirms that all is well at their end.
> > > >
> > > > I find an anomaly when verifying the configuration for
> > >
> > > kmail.  Every entry appears exactly right except the
> > > password entry in smtp.  When I type it in, and
> > > afterward click on apply, then verify that the password has
> > > been saved, I find the area where the password is entered
> > > blank.  Always before the blank area would retain 8
> > > black dots that show when entering the password.  When
> > > the space is blank, no emails can be sent, and the password
> > > can not be entered and applied to resolve this.
> > >
> > > > I want to avoid having to re-install the OS again;
> > >
> > > that was the only solution I was able to find to fix the
> > > problem last time.  I was unable to respond to help
> > > from Lindsay last time, but Lindsay was attempting
> > > help.  Thanks in advance for any help you may provide.
> > >
> > > > Steven
> > >
> > > Why are you completely reinstalling the OS for this
> > > problem?
> > > You are simply wasting time doing that. You should
> > > initially be
> > > renaming/moving your kmail configuration files and mail
> > > folders first,
> > > then try recreating your account settings from scratch.
> >
> > That is the first thing I do when this problem appears.  However,
> > removing kmail and starting from scratch doesn't change anything, when
> > this problem appears.  Using kpackagekit to remove kmail after saving the
> > folders that contain my data, doesn't remove the configuration.  When I
> > re-install kmail even the configuration remains in the new install.  I
> > don't know how to remove the configuration, as well.  Consequently, after
> > attempting all available recommendations, eventually I format the root
> > drive and reinstall.  When I do this, kmail has to be configured, but it
> > works then.
> 
> I never said anything about *uninstalling* kmail (doing that does NOT
>  remove any of your settings). Moving or renaming the configurations files
>  gets you a clean kmail setup. You should be able to locate these files in
>  your /.kde folder, and a quick bit of research will reveal what and where
>  they are.

I believe I did that before I got your instruction.  Everything (including all 
configuration) was exactly the same in Kmail as before I removed and 
reinstalled kmail, so it did not occur to me to mention it. Sorry.

This morning, things have changed again.  I have successfully sent emails.  I 
went to the configuration to see if the sending (smtp) settings showed that a 
password was included, and the line that would normally show 8 dots was blank, 
so I guess that line does not have to show evidence of a password being 
entered to send mail.  Apparently this is a change in Kmail.

Since kmail seems to be working again, I guess the problem is solved, but I 
have no idea what fixed the problem.  What would not work last night, worked 
this morning, and no changes were made.  Thanks for your help.  If you have 
any further instruction how I can improve my posting, please criticize.  I 
sincerely want to do things right.

Steven
> 
> On second thought, go back into the kubuntu-users archive fro December 2008
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2008-December/035839.html
> and retrace  your steps.
> 
> > > Can you access your mail via a web interface? If so you can
> > > at least
> > > have access to that email while trying to figure things
> > > out.
> >
> > att.yahoo is my Internet Service Provider.  I am using their mail program
> >  now, to respond to your email.  It is cumbersome and not as efficient as
> >  kmail when kmail is working properly, but it keeps me from being blind
> > and deaf to the Net.
> >
> > > If I have time later I will see if there is a visual guide
> > > somewhere to
> > > help you out
> >
> > If you are willing to do that, I will continue to use the yahoo mail
> >  application and wait for new help.  I really would prefer not solving
> > the problem by installing.  I have not heard anyone else with this
> > particular problem, and I read every post.  Nor have I been able to find
> > a duplicate situation on other forums.  It is probably something that I
> > am doing wrong and do not realize it.  In any event thanks for the help.
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > > clay
>