Total kmail weirdness

O. Sinclair o.sinclair at
Fri Aug 20 04:29:56 UTC 2010

On 19/08/2010 22:33, Michael Hirsch wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Reinhold Rumberger<rrumberger at>  wrote:
>> On Thursday 19 August 2010, Michael Hirsch wrote:
>>> Okay, y'all were so helpful with my last kmail problem I thought
>>> I'd try again.
>>> You know how the message list in kmail is colored, with red
>>> meaning new and unread, blue is unread, and black is read mail?
>>> Well, when my wife (real--it's not me.  I swear!) clicks the
>>> delete message button, all the red lines disappear!  The first
>>> time it happened she freaked, thinking that everything was lost.
>>> She checked the Trash and they aren't there.  Went back to the
>>> inbox and they were all back again.
>>> This is reproducible on her system.   I can't reproduce it on
>>> mine.
>>> Anyone ever see that?  It's very disturbing.
>> a) Is her system definitely up-to-date? Is yours?
> Yes, we are both up to date.  This all came about because I upgraded
> her from 9.04 to 10.04 with the KDE 4.5 from PPA.
>> b) Was the deleted message by any chance the last one in the list? If
>>    so, there is currently a bug in kmail that makes it jump to the
>>    top of the list when you do anything to the last message that
>>    would normally move the focus to the next message.
> Yes, I've noticed that.  :(  Very annoying.  And combined with the
> fact that the cursor moves off the screen as you delete messages,
> rather than staying put as it should), it becomes almost impossible to
> avoid.  But her message was not the last in the list.  I'll double
> check, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
>> c) if it isn't b), are the messages actually removed from the view?
>>    Or are they simply marked black until you change folders to
>>    another folder and back?
> No, they really went away.
>> If it's either c) or none of these options, you should probably file
>> a bug report.
> Yes, I will.  But I hate filing bugs that I can't reproduce.  But I
> will if I have to.  But then the question is when to stop?  I have so
> much trouble with 4.5, I could file a dozen--I just don't know how to
> reproduce most of them.

Just as a comment I would go back to 4.4.x - the 4.5 in the ppa has some 
flaws that as I understand it might not be fixed until we come to 10.10. 
Actually I sometimes wish I would have stayed on 9.10 with 4.2 stable.

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