Kmail to mimic Gmail?

William Hamra w.hamra1987 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 22 19:56:03 BST 2010


On 22/04/10 13:22, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 22 April 2010 10:54, William Hamra <w.hamra1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22/04/10 09:34, Donatas G. wrote:
>>> Has anybody tried to use Kmail in a way to mimic Gmail, so that the
>>> mails would be displayed in conversation mode (I mean, not just the
>>> mailing list threads, but also the regular sent/received mail?) Is
>>> this possible, and what are the drawbacks?
>>>
>>
>> can't say much about kmail specifically, i am a thunderbird user here,
>> but i can tell about gmail. you can set every folder to use threading.
>> this can be done in kmail's preferences. but what cant be achieved is
>> having the sent & received of same subject grouped together in same
>> thread UNLESS they both have same label, in which case both will be in
>> the folder of that label.
>>
>>> I realize that when using labels with dimap every single message would
>>> be downloaded more than one time, am I right?
>>>
>>
>> yes, if a message has more than onelabel, it will be downloaded twice, a
>> copy for each *folder* as kmail will understand it. and no matter what
>> label, every message will have a copy in the "all mail" folder.
>>
>> here is how i solve this, i read over a dozen tutorials, guides and tips
>> for have a successful IMAP setup for gmail. almost all were for
>> thunderbird, but the part i'll explain here can be achieved on kmail
>> with ease. though it will mean you have to change a bit of your emailing
>> habits, if you don't mind.
>> here, i ensure that every single email i'll receive can be labelled
>> something. if an email is totally random, and i have no idea what to
>> label it, i have a label called "various" for it. i have google labs
>> enabled in my gmail account, and in particular, the advanced IMAP
>> feature enabled. this gives me the option to choose, from within gmail's
>> web interface, which labels i want to make available for IMAP.
>> i choose to remove "All Mail" from the list, if every message has a
>> label, then every message must exist in at least 1 folder, there's no
>> need to download it a second time. messages that won't appear here are
>> message "archived" in "All Mail", and have no label, hence why the
>> previous reasons i mentioned above.
>> secondly, i create filters. a lot of filters for the various labels i
>> have. even though this can be kept simple, and you yourself move the
>> messages from inbox to their folder, but at the very least, have a
>> kubuntu label and filter, and everything else gets sent to "various".
>> additionally, since my connection is not very fast, messages with
>> attachments can be troublesome. so every message that has "FW:" in its
>> subject, and has an attachment, must be some big bulky forward message i
>> don't want and gets sent to "Forward", which is set to not be available
>> on IMAP. i check them every few weeks using the web interface.
>> hope this message is helpful to get you starting. i must remind you,
>> it's all about personality and personalization. some people like simple,
>> some people need complexity. some people don't mind the additional
>> messages, some people are crippled by bandwidth, it's all about YOU, and
>> YOU like things to be :)
>>
> 
> For Gmail-like flat threading in Kmail, comment on this bug:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96968
> 
> Willy, you want this for Thunderbird:
> GMail Conversation View
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/54035
> 

thanks!! very cool add-on.

-- 
Willy K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
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