Ubuntu or Kubuntu

[Joel Oliver]

Alan Dacey Sr. wrote:
>
>
>  I'm curious why you think Gnome should come first.  I did it that way 
until I
>  realized that the apps used in KDE seemed better to me.  After I 
installed it
>  I realized how ugly Gnome looked in comparison.  (My opinion only, not 
trying
>  to fan the flames)
>
>  I agree with installing both while you are deciding.  I feel that if 
you have
>  any machine with a chip running over 1.5 Ghz and 768 MB of memory then 
KDE is
>  the clear winner.  You can even use KDE things with an XFCE desktop if 
you
>  have a really old box.  My Thinkpad A30 from the 90's is still useful 
like
>  that.
>
>  Alan
>

It doesn't really matter, but doing it this way will keep gdm working 
and not using kdm.  Now I know I'm asking for problems, but I have had 
problems with kdm forcing me to 'logout' before I can shutdown or reboot 
in gnome, requiring manually going in and modifying config files. Now 
yes, you can use kdm and kde4 but the current state of kde4...  Ok I'm 
not going down that path. I just rather gdm and the orange/yellow 
"ubuntu" boot splash screen.  This can of course be changed to any of 
the many startup splash screens in the repos and using the package 
startupmanager will simplify changing them (Or manually change the soft 
links in /etc/alternatives to point to the splash image and remake the 
initrd)


Anyway there are many kde apps that I must have in my gnome 
environment.  Namely k3b, ktorrent, the kde games rock, amarok, 
kivio...  And there are much more gtk type apps I use.

I did state it's just a preference.  If you have an xubuntu disk to 
start with, hey... go for it and just sudo apt-get install 
ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop, but then you may need to configure a 
little more....

> >> After I installed it I realized how ugly Gnome looked in comparison.

System>Preferences>Appearance will fix this.  The new Dust theme is 
awesome.  Plus installing ccsm to tweak compiz works fine in gnome.  
KDE4 with its discrete Desktop Settings and Phonon sound management 
seems to be buggy and break often.  Many times, playing with the 
compositing settings in kde4 has locked my out of a usable desktop 
requiring me to get on the terminal to fix it.  Why kde developers need 
to have their own sound system and other low level systems like  phonon 
makes no sense to me, there's already enough well established sound 
management systems like esound, pulseaudio, jack, ect...  So kill arts 
and start a new mess?


OK getting off topic...  Plain and simple it's just an opinion to start 
with ubuntu to install with as it's undeniably a more tested installer.

Joel.