upgrade 8.04 -> 9.04+kde3: how?

[Billie Erin Walsh]

Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> This will probably get me in trouble but...........
>>
>> Have you ever thought of using the file manager to work with your files
>> and folders and not a web browser?
>>
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> Konqueror is still a file manager. That never went away.
>   

Read down a bit further.

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>> As I understand the plan for the future Konqueror is not going to be the
>> swiss army knife of KDE any longer. It's future is to be a better web
>> web browser. It's something people are just going to have to live with
>> or change desktops. Much like all the changes from KDE 3.5.10 to KDE
>> 4.x. I can't say I'm particularly crazy about it but as I learn to work
>> _with_it_ and not _against_it_ KDE 4.x is becoming much easier to live
>> with.
>>
>>     
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> There is no plan to remove the file manager from Konqueror. In fact,
> as Dolphin gains new features, so will Konqueror. If any features are
> missing from KDE 3, then let me know what they are and I will file
> feature requests.
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Konqueror uses Dolphin, at least in part, to work as a file/folder 
manager. _Right_?

It's kind of like opening a PDF file in a web browser. The browser 
itself doesn't open the file. It uses a plugin to open the file. When 
you use Konqueror as a file/folder manager it uses Dolphin as a plugin 
to actually do the work. Feature requests don't make changes in 
Konqueror. They make changes in Dolphin which then gets used by 
Konqueror. Konqueror is not _THE_ file/folder manager. Dolphin is _THE_ 
file/folder manager either working within Konqueror or as a stand alone.

It's kind of silly when someone says that if they can't use Konqueror as 
the file manager they will switch distros rather than use Dolphin when 
in fact they use Dolphin every day, just inside the Konqueror container 
is all.

Why not cut out the middleman, so to speak, and just use the tool that's 
designed to do the work in the first place.

I find that opening a PDF in the actual tool that is designed to be used 
for that gives more functionality than using a browser plugin within a 
web browser. I don't use Konqueror as a file/folder manager so I can't 
say for sure if Dolphin as a stand alone is more feature rich. But from 
experience with other plugins and stand alone's I would just about bet 
it is.

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>> If I could give one piece of advice for KDE users it would be to learn
>> to work _WITH_ KDE 4.x and quit moaning and groaning about the loss of
>> KDE 3.x. Once you learn to work _WITH_ KDE 4.x you can do just about
>> anything you could do in KDE 3.x. As KDE 4.x matures I feel like most
>> people will get over it. When KDE 5.x comes along they will moan and
>> groan over the loss of KDE 4.x.
>>
>>     
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> The moaning and graoning is welcome. KDE 3 had a lot of little details
> that made it great. It is the KDE 3 holdouts who moan and groan who
> are perceptive enough to see the difference in the little details.
> Please, keep moaning and groaning, but be specific! When you see
> something that you don't like, let me know! But be specific and
> constructive.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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Just whining in general about something that doesn't work like it did 
back in the "good ol' days" is just that. Whining. "I want my banky." 
That's what I see most of. That's not constructive in any way.

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