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[Steven Vollom]

On Friday 05 June 2009 05:31:56 pm Muzer wrote:
> Donn wrote:
> > On Friday, 05 June 2009 20:52:37 Muzer wrote:
> >> Because sudo doesn't change the home directory to the /root directory
> >> (when kdesudo does),
> >
> > I think you mean that kdesudo does not change things to root ownership.
> > But then I am not sure why you think this. I could be wrong, but the
> > whole point of *any* sudo is to become (some kind of) root. After that,
> > whatever files are made are made as root. So, kdesudo would have the same
> > effect for that.
> >
> > Nearest I can tell kdesudo does some fancy footwork with display vars in
> > order to get access to X so that graphical apps can run as root. I am
> > very fuzzy about the details. Make that 100% ignorant :)
>
> Well, running kate with sudo, I get this output:
> muzer at muzer-desktop:~$ sudo kate
> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Error: "/tmp/kde-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing.
> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kate(4492) KToolInvocation::klauncher: klauncher not running...
> launching kdeinit
> Error: "/tmp/kde-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kdeinit4: Shutting down running client.
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/klauncher
> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Error: "/tmp/kde-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kded4
> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Error: "/tmp/kde-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4
> kbuildsycoca4 running...
> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4
> kbuildsycoca4 running...
> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-muzer" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
> kdeinit4: preparing to launch
>
>
> But with kdesudo, I get no errors at all (and I know it still is
> outputting to the terminal since I get messages when it closes). I think
> what it does is it properly changes all of the username variables, the
> home directory, etc, whereas sudo doesn't.
>
> I can't remember any examples unfortunately, but I have had apps that
> deny me access to certain files in my home directory if I ever load it
> with sudo rather than kdesudo.
>
> >>> Which examples of command-line bins would you use kdesudo to run?
> >>
> >> Well, anything that needs a config file in ~. Things like midnight ...
> >
> > I think I see what's going-on here. Some people would rather run Dolphin
> > or Konqueror under kdesudo in order to find and edit some config file (or
> > change some file permission) that is not owned by their normal user
> > account. So, yes kdesudo would be useful to them.
> >
> > \d
>
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I have experienced the same thing many times about permissions.  My problem is 
remembering when I am not GUI, since both can be run from the command line.  I 
am sure I will get used to it now that I have a better understanding.  This 
has been a terrific learning experience for me.  It has opened my thoughts to 
greater understanding.  Also, when I stop getting error messages I can neither 
understand or know how to fix, I won't be lost in my thoughts and will be able 
to concentrate on the thing I am trying to do rather than fix an unexplainable 
happening.  Hope that wasn't too confusing.  I have to run out right now, but 
stay in touch.  This has been an extremely wonderful day just because of you.

Steven