3rd Party Applications

[Goh Lip]

Steven Vollom wrote:
> On Monday 03 August 2009 11:51:43 am Goh Lip wrote:
>> Steven Vollom wrote:
>>> When I installed Karmic, my 3rd party Software shows many entries like
>>> disabled on upgrade to Karmic.  It is logical that they were for Jaunty,
>>> but should I remove them? Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Steven
>> Leave these alone, no need to uninstall; after Karmic is fully
>> installed, reinstall these applications. They wont need to be downloaded
> 
> To do this, I just check the unchecked box.  Is that correct?
> 
>> again. Are you on alpha 3?
> 
> I am not totally sure.  I found a site where there was a big list of PPA's for 
> Karmic with their keys.  I installed all that I knew I would need, even in the 
> future.  It was from that installation that a window came up requesting if I 
> wanted to upgrade to Karmic.  I clicked on Yes and installed.  I don't 
> remember the level of Alpha being mentioned; I do remember that it indicated 
> Rc, so that makes me think I am at a current level of the application.
>> Again use
>> sudo aptitude update
>> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
> 
> I just ran the update and safe-upgrade commands, so if they put me at alpha 3, 
> that is where I am now.
> 
> In attempting to install moblock, and using kpackagekit to make the addition, 
> I had a new bug.  When I tried to report it, the server kept timing out.  I 
> never got it reported and tried for more than 2 hours.
> 
> Now that I ran these two commands, I am going to attempt the same installation 
> and see if the bug has been fixed, so I won't have to worry about forgetting to 
> report it.
>> Any 'not-ready' packages won't appear and 'bug' you.
>>
>>
>> Below is copy of earlier message on apt-cdrom
>>
>>> Steven, this may help ease in reinstallation of your OS, should you need
>>> to do it. I am putting in a new subject so that it will not confuse you
>>> with your current boot problems. Other than backing up your home, and I
>>> understand you have a separate partition now for it, the following will
>>> help you reinstall your various applications like biblestudy, wine etc.
>>> without needing to download again.
> _________________________________________________________________
> make a folder called say, Repo in your home.
> install dpkg-dev and build-essential
>  sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /home/Steven/Repo
> cd /home/Steven/Repo
> sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
> _____________________________________________________________________
> 
> I have isolated the part I am now talking about to make sure you refer to it 
> when reading my reply.  Goh Lip.  I may not be as far along on my 
> understanding as you are giving me credit.
> 
> To get the result you suggest, am I to copy and paste:
> 
> install dpkg-dev and build-essential
> sudo cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /home/steven/Repo
> cd /home/steven/Repo
> sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz
> 
> These four commands exactly as written to get the result I need, or am I 
> expected to make adjustments based upon my knowledge of the task?  For 
> instance, I changed the capital 'S' to a small 's', because that is the way it 
> currently appears in my system.
> 
>>> burn a cd of all the items in Repo
> 
> Are there any special instructions in how I set up the burn procedure, ie. 
> something like making it executable, or anything, or do I just burn the folder 
> Repo?
>>> After installation,
> 
> When I put the CD in the other computer,  do the commands you gave me instruct 
> it to install in the proper place for the below instruction to function, or do 
> I put the CD in the other computer's CDROM, then enter the command and then it 
> puts the instruction in the proper place?  You may have answered this question 
> in the next paragraph, but I want to be sure, so I don't make another mistake.
> 
>>> sudo apt-cdrom add
>>>
>>>
>>> Whenever you do any installation, it will probe your cdrom and install
>>> from there and use these files instead of downloading again unless there
>>> are newer versions available.
>>>
>>> Before you copy files to Repo, it is advisable to
>>> sudo apt-get autoremove
>>> sudo apt-get autoclean
>> Regards,
>> Goh Lip
> 
> Thanks, my friend for the wonderful reply.  I am as happy as a gopher chewing 
> his way through soft dirt.  This was a very fun segment of my learning 
> process.  You have me laughing with joy.  Happy Days to you and family.
> 
> Steven



Steven, lets start with quoting Billie's message.


> Steven, If I might make a suggestion.
> 
> If I were you I would concentrate on getting one _VERY_ stable computer 
> first. If your newer machine is buggy then make your older one the 
> stable machine.  _THEN_ you can use the other one to play around with. 
> That way you will always have a system that works well. Just don't mess 
> with the stable machine.


Okay, morning, I am on a time zone which may not permit me to reply 
instantaneously, but I keep to funny times myself.

 > To do this, I just check the unchecked box.  Is that correct?

I personally don't use much of Synaptic, Adept, Kpackage...
I do this "sudo apt-get install <package>"
But if you can find the said packages in the unchecked box, try it out.

 > I am not totally sure.  I found a site where there was a big list of 
PPA's for
 > Karmic with their keys.  I installed all that I knew I would need, 
even in the
 > future.  It was from that installation that a window came up 
requesting if I
 > wanted to upgrade to Karmic.  I clicked on Yes and installed.  I d


What I asked was... looks like you upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty.
Have you got back Jaunty? How? Didn't you reinstall? Looks also your old 
packages are there. If you have got back Jaunty, why did you go 
Ballistic, i mean Karmic. I do want want to know how you got back your 
system. This will help in understanding what to do.

 > In attempting to install moblock,

I do not know what is moblock, sorry here, but try
"sudo apt-get install moblock"

Apt-cdrom. Do not use 'Repo' made from Karmic and use on Jaunty or 
Hardy. But you can use 'Repo' made from Hardy and use on Jaunty or 
Karmic. (not many useful packages then, only things like firefox, 
biblestudy etc)

Hope didn't miss out your other queries.
(Yawn, need my cup of coffee)

Regards,
Goh Lip