Is Canonical against Kubuntu (2): the bug tracking disaster

Steven Vollom stevenvollom at
Sun Apr 19 21:59:23 UTC 2009

On Sunday 19 April 2009 5:09:08 pm Anton wrote:
> Hi Steven,
> the point is not that I find people bad here,
> I like kubuntu and I dream of a day where
> I can use kubuntu only, and
> even install it on pc's of other members of my family
> which are non tech people.
> The point was:
> 1. If I file a bug report I try to do best, but perhaps
>   its a stupid one or is missing information (he he, the bug in the bug)
> 2. If something is missing I am ready to provide information
>  if its not too complicated (I am *not* a Linux guru) and as
>  long as the feedback doesnt come 5 months later.
> 3. If the feedback comes 5 months later
> my thought is (probably other peoples too):
>  - If I do the work  needed to provide the information
>  - and then I send the information
>  - and then I have to wait 5 months again
> Then I conclude its best to simply wait for the next release because:
>  - there will be one bug report less in launchpad
>  - less people  will have to read it and spend time on it
>  - I will spend less time myself on it
> We all can use our time for "sensful" things.
> And again, even if I am critical its because things
> can only be improved if you are a little bit critical.
> Anton
> Steven Vollom wrote:
> > IMO.  The people who contribute and do the actual work should set the
> > priorities for all the work, even when it serves their private agendas to
> > do
> > work outside popular opinion.  Perhaps all Bug repair requests should be
> > Bug repair wishes, since they serve the special interest of those who
> > don't necessarily participate in solutions.
> >
> > Should an unpaid contributing developer be required by non-contributors
> > to do work on a higher list of importance, when his or her chosen
> > contribution is to
> > improve a lesser need?  I think not.  Progress is progress.
> >
> > Additionally, who should have the right to decide the order of scheduling
> > of the work, a non-contributing source of input, or the creator and staff
> > of the project.
> >
> > IMO.  Those who serve this List, by helping those with problems, should
> > have a voice of high priority on the bug servicing WISH list, because
> > they are
> > contributing to the success of the project.  Non contributors should be
> > allowed to add their requests at a much lesser order of importance, and
> > developers of the system should be able to do the work, as they see fit,
> > regardless of the opinions of anyone else.
> >
> > The brain that drives the dog to wag his tail controls, whether you like
> > it or
> > not.  The tail that wants to wag the dog may WISH to, however improbable.
> >
> > It is my hope that this is not just the actions of another OS spoiler
> > trying to create dissension among the faithful.
> >
> > Steven,

I am sorry Anton, sometimes I react before is appropriate.  I am just so 
grateful for Kubuntu, KDE, and especially this List, that I perhaps get too 
protective, but I worry that it will disappear if too much negative is tied to 
it.  This list is the best thing to happen to me.  Without it, I would remain 
without a clue to Linux operation.  It may appear to be still that way from 
where you are, but I am exceedingly aware of how much I have learned, and will 
always be grateful to those who created Kubuntu/KDE.  I am a poor and retired 
fine-artist.  I could never have had a computer with the expense of Microsoft 
and related programs.  Just being able to participate has brought great joy 
and satisfaction to my life.  Thanks for your part too, even though I may not 
know the extent.


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