b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode5.fw" not found

Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtwdyp at ttlc.net
Thu Sep 11 22:13:10 UTC 2008


It would appear that on Sep 11, Derek Broughton did say:

> 
> Knapp wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Derek Broughton <news at pointerstop.ca>
> > wrote:
> 
> >> Sorry, but if you want to use the system in decidedly non-standard ways,
> >> and don't understand how to keep your login console separate from the
> >> system console, I can't say I have a whole lot of sympathy.
> > 
> > A lack of sympathy often reflexes a genetic variation that you
> > inherited. People with this variation often have trouble keeping
> > sexual partners and tend to fail at marriages.
> > Joke right? :-)
> 
> Well, I never had trouble _keeping_ partners, it was getting them...  But
> I've been married for almost 22 years, thanks :-)
> 
> > Really though, have you never gotten in over your head while learning
> > a new system?
> 
> Absolutely, but this isn't someone learning a new system - it certainly
> smacks of someone coercing Ubuntu into a very _old_ form.  Starting X from
> your console using startx went out of fashion about a decade ago.  Ubuntu
> isn't intended to have X started out of somebody's console, so I just don't
> like to see people complaining about getting console messages on a terminal
> that Ubuntu wouldn't have used.  If he'd been using Ubuntu as it was
> intended, he wouldn't have had an issue (and probably would never even have
> noticed)

Well I thought linux was about being able to choose...

And since there used to be a traditional method of selecting gui vs
non-gui login  by setting id:3:initdefault: or id:5:initdefault: in
the now defunct /etc/inittab I felt like Kubuntu was trying to
coerce me into using my pc someone elses way... Though I must
say that at least Kubuntu still includes a working startx
script And a mechanizim for returning to the login method I
prefer THANK YOU Kubuntu! 

But even If I were using the gui login I'd still want to
access the consoles via <alt>+<ctrl>+<F[1-6]> when planning to
run a root shell to use apt-get or visudo or some such. So I
would have still noticed it...

Please don't misunderstand me though Derek, I'm not
complaining that you seam to feel just as strongly that I
should just use the gui login as I do that the console login
and startx should still be a personal choice... In fact I'd
like to applaud you! You _do_ evidently feel strongly that I
shouldn't still be using startx, and yet you very kindly
included two possible solutions in your original reply.

for this I can only say:

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It takes a great man to be kind to those he disagrees with...

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