Beta 8.10 released

[Emanoil Kotsev]

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Beta 8.10 released
> To: deloptes at yahoo.com, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions" <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: Friday, October 10, 2008, 9:42 AM
> On Thursday 09 October 2008 23:51:45 Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
> > On the other hand I used to know a lot of mainly
> americans who are "too
> > softy" like we use to say and "sick of fake
> politeness", which does not
> > help them outside of the USA, so I think the truth is
> as usual somehwere in
> > the middle.
> 
> I couldn't agree more.  Different cultures, as you say.
> 
> >
> > It would be nice to know what I should rephrase. You
> quote "got the point
> > now?"
> >
> > Beeing said "I don't get your point?" I
> think correct answer or contra
> > answer should be "do you get the point?"
> correct me if I'm wrong
> 
> Do you get the point? would be less rude, but still rude
> this side of the 
> pond.  (I.e. Atlantic). The polite way here (if you say it
> at all, which most 
> English people, certainly those of my age, would not if
> they wanted to be 
> polite) would be to ask whether you had made yourself
> clear, and perhaps 
> mention that you might not have done because you are not a
> native speaker.
> 
> > And still the fact that we use english as a lingua
> franca does not mean
> > that we should use the same cultural background as
> base for interpreting
> > what we say. It's all about getting the point -
> isn't it :-)
> 
> None the less, a native speaker will. 
> 
> > Thanks a lot by the way I learned something again -
> don't ask americans (I
> > assume you are)
> 
> No I am British.  (English, in fact - but you do not need
> to get embroiled in 
> our tribal wars!)
> 
> > if they get the point 
> 
> Yes - avoid that phrasing.  It comes across as rude.
> 
> (And I myself had to edit what I had originally said about
> my nationality, 
> since it might have offended citizens of the United
> States.)
> 
> Lisi
> 

Thanks Lisi,

I accept your arguments and will pay more attention in future. IT was not ment to be _that_ rude as you or someone else might understood it.

The problem to me is that people deduce something (like i.e. I did about your nationality) without knowing the cause/reason/truth and we know from logics that you can never know the reason by knowing the fact.

If I don't want to change something (I mean my system i.e. going to kde4.X) it's because I have a good reason, so may be try find out the reason. This is something that's offending me.

Anyway I think this discussion has given me the answers (at least most of them) that I wanted to have. 

thanks and kind regards