The last word on Passwords
Steven Vollom
stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
Tue Nov 25 00:37:47 UTC 2008
Bruce Marshall wrote:
> Steven:
>
> Here are the rules you are operating under:
>
> 1) Your normal user is 'steven' and for that user you have a password.
> 2) You use 'steven' to login to the KDE environment.
> 3) As such, you are a normal (unprivileged) user except when using SUDO.
> 4) Everything you do in KDE (with a few exceptions) you do as an unpriv user.
> 5) For those commands you might want to use (adept, synaptic, some system
> settings), those commands will issue a sudo for you and ask for your 'steven'
> password. They then execute those commands as if root had issued them.
>
> All of the above is the way most people use the kubuntu system. They stay as
> their unpriviledged user, and provide their user passwd when some system
> command needs to be issued. Comprendez?
>
> For all of the above, there is only ONE password, the same password you used
> to login to KDE.... and that is the password for 'steven'.
>
> And I just had a 'light bulb moment'.
>
> And you are NOT going to be able to do what you want.
>
> I was trying to steer you to a root shell in a konsole window. If you had
> attained that (and you are almost there), you would NOT be able to do what
> you want because all of the commands would have to be entered at what we call
> the CLI level (command line interface)
>
> Thus to enter 'system settings', you would have to enter 'systemsettings' and
> know enough to do that (different than what you think). And to change KDE
> settings, you would have to enter 'kcontrol' and know to do that. This is
> not what you want.
>
> So, use a reasonable password, use 'sudo', and live a happy life. You
> CANNOT be root while at the KDE level.
>
> But having said that, you're best bet is to go waaay back to this morning (if
> I recall) and make the changes that will allow you to enter your password
> once every xx hours... or only once. That's what you really want.
>
> So if you had set that to 8 hours... for example, you could click on adept all
> you want for up to 8 hours and not have to re-enter your password. If it can
> be set to infinity, so much the better.
>
> As far as I know, that comes closest to what you are trying to get to.
>
>
> Over and out.
>
>
You're not angry anymore$^%##@$%
Dear Bruce,
I hope we are OK. I kind of wish I could use the program in Feisty that
gave me what I want. Is there a way to extract that package from an old
Feisty CD and make it work in a more current OS? That was best for me.
It was pretty too, and that is good for an artist. It had a beige
background; I not sure the color of the print. But it sure was a
GODsend for someone with a missing digit. Every time I look up, I see
another email. I am not confident this is the last one, but you have
been put through enough.
I really can't complain anyway, because it didn't even cost me 8% of
retail. The Kubuntu people are incredible. They put out the most
fantastic Operating System Free and still get criticism. Go figure.
Well, I don't want to do anything that can't be done, but I want to do
everything that can be done. If your wife is mad at me for causing you
this stress, ask her forgiveness, I am pretty ashamed of myself. Good
night my friend, we must be near the same time. It is dark here. Enjoy
the fireside cuddles, and I will talk to you again, when you are willing.
Steven
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