Before I start filing bugs - KMail Help
Art Alexion
art.alexion at gmail.com
Sun Nov 23 14:13:39 UTC 2008
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Steve Lamb <grey at dmiyu.org> wrote:
> On Sunday 23 November 2008 03:51:47 Jan Torben Heuer wrote:
>> Steve Lamb wrote:
>> > Ok, I've decided to give KMail a whirl after the latest round of "how to
>> > implement reply-to-list" messages in TBird's bugzilla bug for that
>> > feature. Sick of waiting 8 years for that wart to be removed. However
>
>> Oh, any news on that topic? I was subscribed for the bug a few years ago
>> but as you know, nothing happens. AFAIK KMail and mutt are the only mail
>> applications which have useful reply functions...
>
> It is still in the bicycle shed. People still think that it is better not
> to have it implemented than to have it implemented in a manner that is not
> "obvious" and "intuitive". I even posted to it basically saying, "JUST DO
> IT!!!" caps and all. My post was called unproductive. Psh, like 8 years of
> "well, it should be done this way" has helped. *sigh*
>
> And, no, it isn't just KMail and mutt. Claws also does it, as does pine,
> Squirrelmail (with a plugin but it is installed by default, just not enabled)
> and I believe elmo. IE, TBird is pretty much the only one that doesn't do it
> because they can't decide if they want another button or to consolidate into a
> drop-down off reply and change behavior based on folder message context. To
> me it is obvious. Everyone else changes behavior based on folder context and
> don't seem to have an uproar from the users on that front. Grrrrr.
>
>> I think this is because up/down are connected to the message preview
>> window. afaik p/n are used for scrolling in the message list. You can
>> redefine that of course.
>
> Well, that is just dumb. My focus is in the message list and I have the
> preview pane turned off. Completely counter-intuitive even if I were using
> the standard setup.
>
>> Yes, I'm still looking for that. It is because of the agent which asks for
>> the passphrase. If you looked at the console you'd see kmail asks for the
>> password there ;-) However there should be a GUI askpass application
>> available. It is not KMail's fault alone, but the (k)ubuntu packager should
>> have preconfigured that, I think.
>
> .... I look forward to that and will attempt to keep from boggling to
> much at the design decisions of KMail. To answer one of my own questions
> KMail can't use multiple IMAP connections to the server (well, easily) because
> it doesn't to the communication itself. It foists that off to a KIO_slave
> which, for some reason or another, cannot do everything that is needed to
> implement the full range of IMAP (IDLE being a prime example). Between the
> single-connection and the lack of use on the RANGE command I'm tempted to just
> switch back to mbsync for this VM and tell KMail to get its mail from the
> local disc. :/
Yeah. Make sure you have the package gpg-agent installed to get the
pinentry prompt. Should have installed as a dependency.
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