Kubuntu vs. Ubuntu

[Derek Broughton]

Francisco Borges wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Derek Broughton
> <news at pointerstop.ca>wrote:
> 
>> Francisco Borges wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Derek Broughton
>> > <news at pointerstop.ca>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Steven Vollom wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > What I heard was that Kubuntu had more configuration problems.
>> >>
>> >> I believe you heard wrong :-)
>> >>
>> >
>> > I beg to differ.
>> >
>> > At some point, the brightness keys of my laptop stopped working on
>> > KDE, but they still worked on Gnome.
>>
>> All _my_ extra keys work fine.
>>
> 
> I am glad for you. My keys don't work.
> 
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/218889
> 
> This bug had been confirmed, the problem is that it has been marked
> (just as so many others) as a duplicate of another bug which however
> is not the same as the original... I simply did not have the time to
> keep up with it. I must admit.
> 
> In any case, when I filed in, the keys worked on Gnome but not on KDE.
> 
> This was joined on a large bug which encompasses Gnome and KDE, though
> only Gnome seems to be listed latelly:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/207473

Does that not make my point, though?  This isn't an issue of Gnome 
having fewer configuration problems - it's an issue of your particular 
system having problems.  Others are having the problems in Gnome.  Extra 
keys are always an issue, because they're implemented in numerous 
different ways - but in any case, it's X that recognizes them, not a 
particular desktop.

> Despite the bug being marked "fix released" for Hardy, people keep
> reporting the problem on Intrepid.

I'm sure - I see that all the time.

>> > I used to use bluetooth to transfer files. Guess what? Kubuntu 8.10
>> > dropped bluetooth support (as KDE4 still doesn't support it).
>>
>> Funny?  I was offered two different methods for Bluetooth.  I can't
>> guarantee either work, as I don't have any BT devices, but the
>> _support_ is certainly offered in Kubuntu 8.10 and KDE 4.
>>
> 
> Exactly you can't guarantee neither works. So despite not knowing what
> you are talking about, you chose to disregard the opnion of users who
> actually use BT. Very, hum, lets say "unbiased".

No, you said they had _dropped_ bluetooth support, yet clearly they 
haven't.  I don't need to use it to know the support is still there.  It 
could be buggy as can be - I can't tell that - but it hasn't been 
dropped.

> As I said, Kubuntu 8.10 dropped support for it:
> "Bluetooth is not supported in Kubuntu 8.10 because bla bla bla...."
> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IntrepidReleaseNotes#Kubuntu%20Bluetooth%20support
 
I see what you're saying, but it's present on my desktop.  Actual 
existence of software trumps a policy statement.

>> > These are just two examples, but as a whole, there is way more
>> > testing and validation of the Ubuntu desktop environment than
>> > Kubuntu's KDE.
>>
>> Sorry, I'm just not buying it.
> 
> Oh please, don't "buy it". Just read the bug reports.

Heavens!  I'm FILING the bug reports.  I'm not sure how one could make 
any kind of valid comparison between the numbers filed against each 
desktop, but it would be fun to try.  What I'm "not buying" is a blunt 
statement that there is way more testing of the Ubuntu (Gnome) desktop.  
I don't think you can provide any evidence of that.
-- 
derek