Sorry, I give up to preach *ubuntu

Ric Moore wayward4now at
Fri Nov 14 00:54:03 GMT 2008

On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 16:06 +0200, Willy K. Hamra wrote:
> Ric Moore wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-11-12 at 13:40 +0200, Willy Hamra wrote:
> >> On 12/11/2008, Lindsay Mathieson <lindsay.mathieson at> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:48:13 pm Jussi Kekkonen wrote:
> >>>> sorry for replying in this ugly way but... can you point out how
> >>>> nvidia is not working well with kde4/qt4 ? It works perfectly here by
> >>>> any meters except minor bitmap buffer issue
> >>> Same here, very minor bitmap issues in the taskbar and I have full desktop
> >>> effects on.
> >>>
> >>> I did in Advanced Compositing Options turn "Direct Rendering" and "Use VSync
> >>> off" and "Trilinear" to "Best Quality"
> >>>
> >> lindsay, i have a geforce 7300LE with 256 MB of vram, and up to 512 MB.
> >> i use these same settings, but the glitches are horrible :S
> > 
> > Willy, I had a ton of problems with the nv driver, as it only does 2D.
> > No openGL unless you use software to supply libGL. Then it's slow and
> > buggy as all get out. Just maybe an upgrade snuck it back on your
> > system?? Could happen, it wouldn't be the first time either.
> > 
> > First, it you have the nVidia X server settings on your "settings -
> > xVidia X server settings" click on it and poke at "X Screen 0" then
> > "Open GL/GLX information" where you should see GLX Information" followed
> > by "Direct Rendering - Yes" and "GLX Extensions: " with a scroll of
> > options on and working. If you're not seeing what I'm seeing here, then
> > something is indeed broken. 
> > 
> > I would be willing to bet that your system is running xv instead of the
> > real deal. That happen to me running Fedora and I about tore my hair out
> > reconfiguring xorg.conf before I caught on to the swap out. I think Gene
> > ran into the problem about the same time. I am running kernel
> > 2.6.24-16-generic.
> > nVidia driver #173.14.12
> >  
> i'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the graphic card
> requirements of linux systems. or even know what my graphic card support
> of them :S i'm more knowledgeable in direct x requirements, and the
> different shader models required by windows games :P
> so basically nv does only 2d? i'm sure i have nv, not the open-sourced
> nvidia or xv. so if nv doesn't provide 3d, then wha's different between
> nv and nvidia, i thought nv has more functions than nvidia? :-S
> i see the Open GL/GLX information, and i can see direct rendering set to
> yes, and a lot of GLX extensions.

The open source nv driver lacks the hardware support which is held proprietary within nVidia, Inc. 
They do release and maintain their own linux driver which is a binary,
not "open source" and quite frankly a Devil's Bargain to use it. Of
course I use it as I want my hardware to work. It sure sounds like
something is enabled there on your machine, though. I guess you could
crank up adept manager and search on nvidia to see what you do have
installed. What I think you want to have is envyNG installed. It will
grab the best package for you and install it for you. Warning, it can be
fraught with peril at times, when it re-writes /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
and makes a mistake, so you will want to back it up first. If it blows
up, you need only copy the original file back to xorg.conf. 

Whoops, sorry I meant nv when I wrote xv, my old roots are showing.
Hopefully others will chime in with some advice to balance against my
own, just so you get it right the first time. Ric


My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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