Sorry, I give up to preach *ubuntu

[Willy Hamra]

On 12/11/2008, Jussi Kekkonen <jussi.kekkonen at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/12/08, Willy Hamra <w.hamra1987 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/11/2008, Ric Moore <wayward4now at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 19:32 +0200, Willy K. Hamra wrote:
> >> > 2008/11/7 p.daniels <carl1086 at morris.umn.edu>:
> >> > > On Friday November 7 2008 12:52:53 am Ali Milis wrote:
> >> > >> $ export GIVEUP
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Well... GeForce 7100 GS users have been stranded away
> >> > >> for too long. How on earth, can I  recommend/preach a product
> >> > >> that sometimes work and often don't?!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I myself have no problem, since I can google most of my own
> >> > >> problems. But unfortunately, this is not a product for beginners
> >> > >> and laypeople
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > > You know, I said the same thing about two years ago. So I did it. I
> >> > > gave up on
> >> > > Nvidia, I sent them a letter telling them why, and I'm a happier
> >> > > person today.
> >> > >
> >> > > best wishes-
> >> > > pete
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > i'm a tolerant person. i'm giving them till february to release some
> >> > KDE4-compatible driver, if they don't, won't do it, i'm off to ATI, and
> >> > i'll of course, let them know why as well. every company that
> >> > disrespects it's clients, force them to use certain software, OS, or
> >> > other crapware deserves to be abandoned!
> >>
> >> I see plenty of problems reported with ATI as well, in gaming and doing
> >> 3D graphic design, in the user-group maillists. The nVidia users, like
> >> myself, have no problems. I'm not sure what the beef is, but I do run an
> >> older nVidia card, a 5700 with 1/2 meg of vram. I use the nVidia driver
> >> installer using EnvyNG which works like a charm. When I used Fedora, I
> >> just installed the nVidia supplied driver package manually. Using the
> >> third party packagers I had problems. Major problems doing really tight
> >> 3D virtual environments. NVidia has been good for me, so I don't know
> >> what problems the OP had. Ric
> >>
> >
> > the problem is not with the installation. the proprietary nVidia
> > drivers provided in the repos install perfectly. but the problem is
> > with the lack of support for QT4 and KDE4 in general by these drivers.
> > are you using the proprietary drivers, Ric? are using them with KDE4?
> > if not, then you don't know about the problems i mentioned and suffer
> > from. but if yes, then tell me, how is the general look and feel of
> > KDE4? how many rendering glitches do you see per minute? quite a lot!
> > turn desktop effects on, and these bugs more than quadriple. nVidia is
> > aware of this, and that's why they provided the 177 beta driver
> > series. for KDE3, the 173 drivers are still useful, and envy
> > recommends them. but for KDE4, 173 are very very buggy, the 177 are a
> > bit better, but still, nVidia is not doing it's job well with
> > providing the necessary functionality.
> >
> sorry for replying in this ugly way but... can you point out how
> nvidia is not working well with kde4/qt4 ? It works perfectly here by
> any meters except minor bitmap buffer issue
>

no problem.
*run dialog duplicating itself when triggered with alt+f2.
*any new window when opened, instead of seeing a blank window while it
loads, i see the contents of some other window for a couple of
seconds, before it loads it's own contents.
*switch to a different desktop, LOADS of lines and borders and
meaningless gibberish appears on the desktop until i move the mouse
over them.
for more info, visit these 3 links
http://forum.kde.org/showthread.php?tid=6971
http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/KDE4-NVIDIA
http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance#NVIDIA


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Willy K. Hamra
Manager of Hamra Information Systems
Co. Manager of Zeina Computers and Billy Net.