kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 40, Issue 90

hvralpha hvralpha at intekom.co.za
Wed May 28 08:03:20 BST 2008


8.04 X64 Boot Failure

Chuck,

My X64 system also failed. There is something wrong with the video setup after 
the upgrade  installation. The .17 kernel corrupts it.

I recovered it by running the .16 recovery package from GRUB and using the 
xorg recovery set up at the end . It cleaned out the xorg.conf file and then 
booted properly. I am using the standard "nv" opensource driver on my system 
and it works at max capacity ( No Compiz).

I believe there is also a problem with the latest Nvidia driver and would not 
recommend using it for older cards.


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>    1. Re: [SPAM] Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26
>       (Gene Heskett)
>    2. Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout (Milos Prudek)
>    3. Computer Beeps (Willy K. Hamra)
>    4. Re: Computer Beeps (Nigel Henry)
>    5. Can't mount samba shares (David McGlone)
>    6. Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long] (chuck adams)
>    7. Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout (Art Alexion)
>    8. Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long]
>       (Manuel McLure)
>    9. Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout (Karl Klinger)
>   10. Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long]
>       (Martin Laberge)
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:45:54 -0400
> From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc: Derek Broughton <news at pointerstop.ca>
> Message-ID: <200805271345.55137.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Tuesday 27 May 2008, Derek Broughton wrote:
> >Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>         *  1.5 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL
> >>         blocklist
> >>
> >> Your rDNS configuration is in bad need of tlc.  A Clue Bat should be
> >> applied to
> >> your ISP maybe?  My guess is that the RDNS_NONE is responsible for the
> >> rest of the hits, fix that and the others will go away as their lists
> >> expire.
> >
> >Frankly, I consider spam checking by blocklist to be badly in need of a
> > clue bat.  Yeah, I realize this is a bayesian filter, and that alone
> > shouldn't be enough to make something register as spam, but do you really
> > need to check 7 different blocklists/redlists(?? that's a new one on
> > me)/greylists? --
> >derek
>
> I'm not what one could call an SA expert, this is essentially a stock
> install of 3.2.4, with a weekly update script run by cron.  I was just
> reading the header. That does seem excessive to me too, FWIW.
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> The health of a democratic society may be measured by the quality
> of functions performed by private citizens.
> 		-- Alexis de Tocqueville
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:53:41 +0200
> From: Milos Prudek <prudek at bvx.cz>
> Subject: Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200805271953.41538.prudek at bvx.cz>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> > Which section?  Kcontrol removes all the commented lines the first time
> > you modify your login preferences.  For example, here is my file
> > currently:
>
> Section [X-:*-Core]
>
> --
> Milos Prudek
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:23:54 +0300
> From: "Willy K. Hamra" <w.hamra1987 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Computer Beeps
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <483C6DDA.3000301 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi, whenever i receive a new email through thunderbird, the computer
> beeps, from inside the PC case. how can i set up thunderbird to do a
> normal sound? through the sound card. and better still, is there an
> option to disable the beeping behaviour in the first place? for example,
> it beeps a lot when i'm using a shell, and X not running.
> thanks in advance.
> --
>
> ---
> Willy K. Hamra
> Manager of Hamra Information Systems
> Co. Manager of Zeina Computer & Billy Net
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 23:28:48 +0200
> From: Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp at aliceadsl.fr>
> Subject: Re: Computer Beeps
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 22:23, Willy K. Hamra wrote:
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> >
> > Hi, whenever i receive a new email through thunderbird, the computer
> > beeps, from inside the PC case. how can i set up thunderbird to do a
> > normal sound? through the sound card. and better still, is there an
> > option to disable the beeping behaviour in the first place? for example,
> > it beeps a lot when i'm using a shell, and X not running.
> > thanks in advance.
> > - --
> >
> > - ---
> > Willy K. Hamra
>
> Hi Willy. On my Fedora 8 install I added a line to /etc/modprobe.conf, as
> below.
> install pcspkr /bin/true
>
> This sends the beeps to nowhere land.
>
> On a Debian install, the same line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base should
> work.
>
> All the best, and if you have problems post back.
>
> Nigel.
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:08:54 -0400
> From: David McGlone <d.mcglone at att.net>
> Subject: Can't mount samba shares
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200805271908.54781.d.mcglone at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> for some reason I can't mount my samba shares. Here is what dmesg spits out
> at me:
>
> [10345.520000]  CIFS VFS: Server requests plain text password but client
> support disabled
> [10347.828000]  CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -13
> [10347.960000]  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -13
>
> Anyone have any ideas? I've never had a problem before.
>
> Thanks,
> David M.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:18:11 -0700
> From: chuck adams <k7qo at commspeed.net>
> Subject: Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long]
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200805271618.11902.k7qo at commspeed.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="utf-8"
>
> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 08:41:55 Paul Lemmons wrote:
> > The command should work as written. Can you run it again and past the
> > results into a response to this thread?
>
> Paul et al,
>
> Did more than that.  Here is today's results.
>
> System:  ECS Elitegroup GeForce 7050M-M mobo with AMD Athlon 64x2
> running at 2.5GHz with 4GB of main memory.  500GB hard drive and
> NVidia GeF7050 graphics.
>
>
> Step 1:  Install from scratch Kubuntu 8.04 i386 from DVD.
>              OK.  Worked just fine.
>
> Step 2:  Click on video card image for nvidia install of nvidia-glx-new
>              version 169.12+2.6.24.12-17.36.
>              Installed without problems.
>
> Step 3:  Reboot system.
>              OK.  System comes back up with 1280x1024 resolution as desired
>              for LCD display screen.
>
> Step 4:  Click on red triangle with Koala bear hugging it for updates.
>              OK.  adept manager comes up and does 6 installs and 71 updates
>              without errors.   uname shows 2.6.24-16-generic kernel running
>              for this.
>
> Step 5:  Reboot to use new kernel.  uname shows 2.6.24-17-generic kernel
>              running.  Everything functioning as scheduled, planned, and
>              desired......
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----------------------
>
> Step 1:  Install from scratch Kubuntu 8.04 x86_64 from DVD.
>              OK.  Worked just fine.  Low screen resolution.
>
> Step 2:  Click on video card image for nvidia install of nvidia-glx-new
>              version 169.12+12+2.6.24.12-17.36.
>              Failed due to "There was an error commiting changes.
>              Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages
>              or the commit would break package.
>
> Step 3:  Reboot system.  At login, the screen blanks and the login
>              screen returns.  My guess is that X11 is complaining about
>              xorg.conf and/or driver(s), etc.  I didn't bring up the rescue
>              disc and check this.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----------------------------
>
> I went back to check the aptitude problem for x86_64.
>
>         sudo aptitude update          worked just fine.
>
>         sudo aptitude safe-upgrade     started just fine, so my guess is
> that I did something stupid yesterday like safe-update
>
>        This  failed due to Segmentation fault for the bash module and it
> quit.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------------------------
>
> So, the x86_64 mirror looks to be corrupted and I am guessing it is
> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com    as this is the site used by adept
> manager for the i386 upgrades.  I was using aptitude for the x86_64
> tests.
>
> My problems started around 00:00 UTC today (May 27) when I was
> able to get the nvidia module to work, but the updates failed.  I
> reloaded the system and then tried again and everything failed.
> So whatever was done at that time caused the failures I am now
> seeing.  Was the us.archives updated and then the manager
> switched mirrors??  Inquiring minds want to know.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------------------------
>
> A cry went up from the crowd!   STICK TO i386!!   Use it.
>
> I can't do that.  Here is why.  I need 64-bit floating point numbers
> for some heavy computations.  How neat would it be if some one
> from this group did the calculations, using kubuntu, to generate
> the last 1024x1024 image that the Phoenix Mars explorer takes
> before it dies 3 months from now?   Could ubuntu/kubuntu use
> the braggin rights????  I think so.
>
> My expertise is radiative transfer.  I have done calculations for
> light scattering from lasers, remote sensing both land and satellite
> based, twilight color calculations for the earth, and polarization
> calculations and measurements for Venus.
>
> I need 64-bits to do the calculations for Mars.  I want the above
> system to do it  so that I can use the fastest processor
> I own and save more that 25% on CPU times.
>
> I refuse to give up on this quest.  Stand by.  Film at 11.
> I will not be defeated, but I might be out scored.... :-)
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:05:03 -0400
> From: Art Alexion <art.alexion at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200805261505.08736.art.alexion at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Yeah, I have this now with ATI.  If I graphically log out I can't even
> ctrl+alt+F(x) to sudo shutdown from there.  I have to reset with hardware.
> With this thread, it is comforting to know it isn't just my system.
>
> On Monday 26 May 2008 12:56:51 Salva . wrote:
> > same in ATI, just relax, and don't log out :)
> >
> > if you shut down (graphically) it happens the same, but if you shut down
> > with: sudo shutdown -h now
> >
> > then it shuts down correctly.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Paul.
> >
> > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Milos Prudek <prudek at bvx.cz> wrote:
> > >> Now everything works perfectly except logout. I use kdm. Logout from
> > >> KDE results in a blank screen that does not react to
> > >> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.
> > >
> > > I found that it is a known bug
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/181343
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:03:37 -0700
> From: Manuel McLure <manuel at mclure.org>
> Subject: Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long]
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Tue, 27 May 2008 16:18:11 -0700, chuck adams <k7qo at commspeed.net> wrote:
> > A cry went up from the crowd!   STICK TO i386!!   Use it.
> >
> > I can't do that.  Here is why.  I need 64-bit floating point numbers
> > for some heavy computations.  How neat would it be if some one
> > from this group did the calculations, using kubuntu, to generate
> > the last 1024x1024 image that the Phoenix Mars explorer takes
> > before it dies 3 months from now?   Could ubuntu/kubuntu use
> > the braggin rights????  I think so.
> >
> > My expertise is radiative transfer.  I have done calculations for
> > light scattering from lasers, remote sensing both land and satellite
> > based, twilight color calculations for the earth, and polarization
> > calculations and measurements for Venus.
> >
> > I need 64-bits to do the calculations for Mars.  I want the above
> > system to do it  so that I can use the fastest processor
> > I own and save more that 25% on CPU times.
> >
> > I refuse to give up on this quest.  Stand by.  Film at 11.
> > I will not be defeated, but I might be out scored.... :-)
>
> You don't need a 64-bit processor to do fast 64-bit floating point
> processing. A 64 bit processor will do 64-bit *integer* processing faster
> than a 32-bit processor, but the floating point processor in a 32-bit
> processor handles 64-bit floating point numbers just as well as the one on
> a 64-bit processor. This has been true from the original 80287 (which
> handled *80* bit floating point numbers.) For floating point math, the only
> advantage a 64-bit processor might have is wider memory bandwidth, but if
> you're running the 64-bit processor in 32-bit mode you have that anyway.
> The floating point registers in 32-bit mode are the same width as the ones
> in 64-bit mode.
>
> --
> Manuel A. McLure WW1FA <manuel at mclure.org> <http://www.mclure.org>
> ...for in Ulthar, according to an ancient and significant law,
> no man may kill a cat.                       -- H.P. Lovecraft
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:50:13 -0700
> From: Karl Klinger <karlok at fastmail.fm>
> Subject: Re: 8.04, Nvidia proprietary, failed logout
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <483CAC45.3000403 at fastmail.fm>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Milos Prudek wrote:
> > Here is a permanent fix:
> >
> > in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, uncommment
> >
> > TerminateServer=true
>
> The logout problem has been annoying me for some time.  Your fix is the
> first one that actually worked for me.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Karl
>
> p.s. using ATI proprietary driver.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:37:44 -0400
> From: Martin Laberge <mlsoft at videotron.ca>
> Subject: Re: Strange but true 8.04 updates today May 26[long]
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200805272137.44373.mlsoft at videotron.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> On Tuesday 27 May 2008 20:03:37 Manuel McLure wrote:
> > You don't need a 64-bit processor to do fast 64-bit floating point
> > processing. A 64 bit processor will do 64-bit *integer* processing faster
> > than a 32-bit processor, but the floating point processor in a 32-bit
> > processor handles 64-bit floating point numbers just as well as the one
> > on a 64-bit processor. This has been true from the original 80287 (which
> > handled *80* bit floating point numbers.) For floating point math, the
> > only advantage a 64-bit processor might have is wider memory bandwidth,
> > but if you're running the 64-bit processor in 32-bit mode you have that
> > anyway. The floating point registers in 32-bit mode are the same width as
> > the ones in 64-bit mode.
>
> do you know if the 80 bits floats of the 287 are the same length
> today, or are they larger??
>
> --
> Martin Laberge
> mlsoft at videotron.ca
> Tel:(418)521-6823
>
>
>
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