1. Newbie evaluation. 2. Gutsy>Hardy: request for advice.

Fri May 2 07:48:05 UTC 2008

2008-05-01 (木) の 11:08 -0400 に Geoffrey Bays さんは書きました:
> Bas:
> 
> I upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy via Adept because it was easier, but
> there have been issues with sound
> and cdrom. Most of what I read on the forums suggests that a clean
> install is the safer and better route to go
> when you upgrade. I am fairly sure that my issues would not have
> happened with a fresh install of Kubuntu Hardy.
> See what others more experienced than I think about this.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> geoff bays
> 
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Bas Roufs <basroufs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Everybody
> >
> >  In November last year I started transferring from Windows to Linux via
> >  Kubuntu 7.10, Gutsy Gibbon. At present I do about 95% of my PC work via
> >  Gutsy. After 20 years of Windows agony, my pleasure with Kubuntu Gutsy
> >  gets bigger every week. About 95% of the problems I manage to resolve
> >  myself so far. About 4% of my problems have been satisfactorily resolved
> >  after consulting the Kubuntu or Ubuntu forums or a Friend/ Linux expert
> >  here in Utrecht, The Netherlands. Sometimes I already manage to give
> >  advises myself to others via the Kubuntu and Ubuntu user groups. At
> >  present, there is only one major problem at daily user level I did not
> >  yet manage to resolve: the on-board sound at my desktop, an HP Pavilion.
> >  Below, I get back to that specific isssue.
> >
> >  At present, I am wondering when it could be a good moment in my case to
> >  switch to one of  the two(!) versions of Kubuntu 8.04, Hardy Heron. I do
> >  not have any experience with a version upgrade within Kubuntu. That's
> >  why, I kindly ask your advice. Below, I specify this request on detail
> >  level.
> >
> >  According to kubuntu.org, there are two versions of the 8.04 release:
> >  one with the 'stable' KDE 3.5.9 and another one with KDE 4.0.3. More
> >  info: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/8.04-release.php
> >  To be honest, I attach more importance to system stability than to super
> >  brand new features. That is one of the many reasons I am marginalising
> >  the use of Windows as much as possible. What about the future of KDE 4?
> >  Will there be a more 'stable' release to be incorporated in Kubuntu
> >  8.10, to be issued next October? Will it be possible to upgrade to 8.10
> >  with KDE 4 from either Gutsy or Hardy in combination with KDE 3.5.9?
> >
> >  According to several messages I read on the Kubuntu and Ubuntu forums,
> >  Hardy works with Firefox 3 - a version that is allegedly not yet
> >  compatible with several add-ons that I use frequently - by example the
> >  'Foxmarks' book mark synchroniser. This is the main reason I am
> >  hesitating to transfer already now to Hardy. Does any one know when this
> >  compatibility problem will be solved?
> >
> >  So far, I have understood that there are two ways to 'upgrade':
> >  * installation 'from scratch', or ....
> >  * 'upgrade' while maintaining the whole configuration.
> >
> >  With respect to my DESKTOP: I am wondering which of the two ways of
> >  'upgrading' is the best one. I made there a HOME+System partition of 15
> >  GB only. I need to use different language versions of Kubuntu and Open
> >  Office - that's why I have a permanent lack of space in that partition.
> >  That's why I want to make that partition at least twice bigger. The
> >  total size of the HD on which I use Kubuntu is 180 GB -so, there is more
> >  than enough space for that.  What is more easy, practical and safe:
> >  resizing that partition together with an 'installation from scratch'  of
> >  Hardy or following a 'direct upgrade' from 7.10 via Adept? (See:
> >  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu )
> >  I am perfectly happy to first save/ back up my data in case an
> >  'installation from scratch' is better. In such a case, I am also able to
> >  produce and use a 'Kubuntu files script' in order to get back all the
> >  software packages I have been using so far.
> >
> >  With respect to the laptop: there, the size of the Home/ system
> >  partition is already OK. So, which way to upgrade is best there?
> >
> >  One major daily use issue I did not manage to resolve within Gutsy: the
> >  sound at the desktop, an HP Pavilion. Several times I carried out all
> >  the checks and instructions at the so-called 'Comprehensive Sound
> >  Problem Solutions Guide':
> >  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449.
> >  What is the best thing to do from this point of view: first trying to
> >  resolve the sound issue, than upgrading? Or is it better first to
> >  upgrade in the hope that the sound problem can be more easily solved
> >  afterwards?
> >
> >  Thanks for your possible replies! Also partial answers to one or more
> >  specific questions could make me happy.
> >
> >  Respectfully Yours,
> >
> >  Bas.
> >
> >
> >
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I have been upgrading since feisty (dapper to feisty upgrade broke my
swap partition due to using UID to identify partitions). Sadly, resuming
from suspend doesn't work on my laptop in Hardy so I had to go back to
Gutsy. I don't think Hardy was stable enough for a LTS release so I'd
wait at least a few weeks.