Problems with KDE4 under Kubuntu Hardy

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 01 June 2008 16:57, Pastor JW wrote:
> On Sunday 01 June 2008 03:15:01 am Steve Lamb wrote:
> >     Tell that to the OP.  Furthermore are you really suggesting a clean
> > install because I accidentally removed my K button and can't move it on
> > the bar?  Do you consider that reasonable for RELEASED software?  I
> > don't.
>
> Do you mean by "clean install", to install the whole of 8.04?   That would
> be almost impossible for me as I also have work to do on my computer all
> day.  I did "mark for complete removal" KDE4 and then reinstalled it, but
> that does not fix the K menu button.  It is still over on the right hand
> side instead of the left where it started.
I don't have Hardy Heron, or Fedora 9 installed yet, which both use KDE4, but 
when you re-installed KDE4, possibly all the config stuff for KDE4 in 
your /home/user/.kde directory was unchanged after the re-install, therefore 
everything was as before you re-installed KDE4.

It may be worth a look in /home/user-name/.kde/share/config/kickerrc. Don't 
delete the kickerrc file, but rename it, then logout, and log back in. These 
files should be re-created with the default settings, and may resolve your 
problem.

Make sure that you have an icon on your desktop for "Home", just in case the 
kicker (panel) doesn't come back after the login, as at least then you can 
rename the renamed kickerrc to what it was before you changed it. Logout, and 
backin. No panel, but as I'm sure you know ctrl alt backspace, get's you back 
to the login.

Ignore the following ramble about gung ho upgrades, when you don't know if 
your os will still work.

It has to be said that we all want to try out the latest version of our 
distro, and see what's new. That said, we don't want the new stuff to totally 
screw the distro that we need for our work.

I have a whole bunch of distros available on various harddrives, which I'm 
able to plugin to a 5 1/4" harddrive caddy. These include Fedora versions 1 
through to 8, Debian Sarge, Etch, and Lenny (testing), Archlinux, Kubuntu 
Dapper, and Gutsy Gibbon. I upgraded Kubuntu Breezy to Dapper, but had to 
mess with getting the screen resolution set correctly, which I'd already had 
to do when I installed Breezy. I've never upgraded a Fedora install, and have 
always done a fresh install on spare harddrive space. I've had most succes 
with upgrading my Debian installs. These were originally installed from Woody 
3.0r2 cdroms, and upgraded to Sarge, which I think was still (testing) at the 
time. Sarge went to (stable), and then I had 3 instances of Sarge. Etch was 
now the testing version, so I changed one of my Sarge installs 
in /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the Etch repos. At this time Debian was 
still using xfree86. Some time later there was the transition from xfree86 to 
xorg, and that went without any problems on my Etch (testing) install. More 
time passes by, and Etch goes (stable), and Lenny is available as (testing).

Now I still have 2 Sarge installs, so upgrade one to Etch, now (stable), and 
including the transition from xfree86 to xorg. Amazingly no problems with the 
upgrade. So far so good, and I now have 1 Sarge, and 2 Etch instances. As 
there are no problems with the 2 Etch installs, I point one of them 
in /etc/apt/sources.list to Lenny (testing). Lenny has had some problems from 
time to time. I lost Rosegarden for about 6 weeks, deps problems I suppose, 
but never any problems that needed me to re-install the os.

Now I don't use any of my distros for my work, as I don't have any, but I 
think if you do need to use your distro for work, think carefully about 
upgrading it.

I'd always suggest installing the new version of, for example, Hardy Heron, as 
a dual boot on your harddrive, that is if you have the space. At least you, 
in this instance could try out KDE4, and see what problems there are with it. 
if there are problems, you can always bootup your GG install, and just carry 
on with your work with no problems.

Personally, and regarding my Gutsy Gibbon install. I've no intention of 
upgrading it to HH, and KDE4. I've seen too many problems with KDE4 on Fedora 
9, and HH. Saying that I'll try to find some free harddrive space, or an 
older distro that I'm willing to overwrite with HH. I would like to see what 
KDE4 looks like, but without screwing up a distro that works, by simply 
upgrading it. I know the developers of KDE4 need feedback, so as to improve 
it. I've seen the same with new music apps announced on the LAU list. You 
have problems building the app, or it crashes, and posting back helps the 
developer to fix the problem, and this how things progress, till eventually 
the app works without problems.

Sorry. More than 2¢ worth of rambling, but just my thoughts.

Nigel.



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