Kmenu and KDE4

Clay Weber claydoh at
Sat Dec 20 22:29:30 UTC 2008

On Sat December 20 2008 4:00:26 pm Billie Walsh wrote:
> Clay Weber wrote:
> > On Sat December 20 2008 9:34:27 am Billie Walsh wrote:
> >> It's very obvious that the devs don't pay attention to any user lists.
> >> They should. If they had they wouldn't have been so quick to choose
> >> SUSE's Kickoff. There was a major flap when SUSE released it on the SUSE
> >> users lists. The majority of SUSE users don't use it and hate it.
> >
> > yes, from what I hear from discussions with various devs, they do not
> > usually follow <foo>-user lists, as they are generally supposed to be for
> > user-to-user support..
> I don't know. I would think that if I was poring heart and soul into
> something for others to use I would like to have some sort of indication
> of their feelings about what I'm doing. If I'm not going in the
> direction that is most beneficial then I would like to think I would
> take it that direction. It's kind of a customer service type of thing.
> If your a retail business and you stop listening to the customers needs
> and start dictating to the customer, well, there's another store just
> down the street. I've already seen many, at least threatening to, jump
> off the KDE ship over this new KDE. There's another interface available.
> --
> Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans.

Unfortunately, that is a bad analogy as the 'customer' and 'retail business' 
concepts do not really fit, as each individual person who contributes (in 
whatever capacity) to an open source project does  so for their own personal 
reasons, even in a project as large in scope as KDE. They are not necessarily 
tied to 'customer service' if you will.
the above link, and the comments, show some good insight from both sides in 
relation to Lancelot.

Also please not that I am not necessarily disagreeing with you on the overall 
subject at hand.

Where/how do non-contributing users properly and sanely voice their concerns 
where the developers can easily see them?

Clay Weber

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