Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines)

[Steven Vollom]

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>   
>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote:
>>     
>>> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the 
>>> console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and <enter> (minus 
>>> the quotes).
>>>
>>> Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see 
>>> some useful debug output on the console.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lindsay Mathieson
>>> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/
>>>
>>> --- Original message ---
>>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines)
>>> From: Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM
>>>
>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>       
>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send 
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> to me
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary 
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> against
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this 
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> in a
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my 
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> life a
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want
>>>>>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide 
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> the
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> Dear David,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> outbox and
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels
>>>>>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks
>>>>>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer, 
>>>>>>>               
>>> on my
>>>       
>>>>>>> new one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> What port are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did
>>>>> not work.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Server requires authentication should be checked 
>>>>         
>>> stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
>>>       
>>>> should be in the username and your password should be there. 
>>>>         
>>> authentication
>>>       
>>>> menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can 
>>> see why it is so frustrating, can't you?
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
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>> Dear Lindsay,
>>
>> I entered kmail in the konsole.  Then I attempted to send a test email 
>> to myself.  It sent it to the Outbox like before.  The Konsole shows my 
>> initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry:  
>> steven at Studio25:~$.  If I have to do something to debug, please advise.  
>> And Thanks again for being so tenatious.  I may get it working someday.
>>
>>     
> Dear Steven,
> I would open a gmail account just for testing purposes. You can then 
> configure that account to accept pop and smtp from the web logon, follow 
> their instructions to set up an account in mail software (very much like 
> the one you have already) and test to send. Btw you should have port 
> 465, login with full gmail account (name at gmail.com) and Security should 
> be SSL and Plain (not TLS that "server support check" indicates, then it 
> just hangs in the outbox...)
>
> If that works - your ISP is doing something funny/strange
> If that does NOT work - something is wrong with your KMail installation
>
> Sinclair
>
>   
Dear Sinclair,

I have a gmail account.  It is svollom at gmail.com.  I still would like 
kmail.  I want to use all Kubuntu KDE products.  I am not without 
email.  As you can see this email is coming from TBird and I do have 
gmail.  I am going to reinstall kmail and see if that changes anything.  
When I asked AT&T.Yahoo for help they wanted a very high service fee 
that I cannot afford to pay, when I can get the service from TBird and 
gmail.  $100 is like purchasing a lot of new equipment.  It is obscene 
how some companies abuse Linux users.

Steven