Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines)
Steven Vollom
stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
Fri Dec 5 14:51:02 UTC 2008
O. Sinclair wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>
>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, one thing that might be useful trying - Start KMail from the
>>> console - just start "konsole " and type "kmail" and <enter> (minus
>>> the quotes).
>>>
>>> Then try to send a email using yahoo. Assuming it fails, we should see
>>> some useful debug output on the console.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lindsay Mathieson
>>> http://album.mathieson.org.nz/
>>>
>>> --- Original message ---
>>> Subject: Re: Kmail and Yahoo (was Re: konqueror search engines)
>>> From: Steven Vollom <stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>> Date: 05/12/2008 4:54 AM
>>>
>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 5:34:10 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 3:55:08 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday 04 December 2008 1:54:56 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David McGlone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:46:12 pm Steven Vollom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> lindsay.mathieson at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve, I'd like to investigate more but the Yahoo SMTP send
>>>>>>>>>>>> requires a commercial Yahoo account, which I don't have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have a spare guest email login for Yahoo you can send
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> to me
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> privately I can test against my KMail 4.1 and if necessary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> against
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 4.2 beta.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sI have no idea how to do that. Absolutely, if we can do this
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> in a
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> way that some troublemaker who is eavesdropping can't make my
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> life a
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare. It sure would be nice to have it fixed. I really want
>>>>>>>>>>> to start using Kubuntu and KDE exclusively where they provide
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> package for whatever. I am a believer, finally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SBCGLOBAL is now att, your SMTP should be mail.att.yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear David,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I changed it from smtp to mail, but it still remains in the
>>>>>>>>>
>>> outbox and
>>>
>>>>>>>>> does not send. Pretty confusing isn't it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steven, I am absolutely sorry, I meant to type smtp.att.yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need to apologize, it gave me momentary hope. That always feels
>>>>>>> good. That is the way I have it entered, smtp.att.yahoo.com. Thanks
>>>>>>> for trying. I will get it eventually, if not with this computer,
>>>>>>>
>>> on my
>>>
>>>>>>> new one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What port are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 465. Someone gave me a port 5xx something; I tried it too, and it did
>>>>> not work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Server requires authentication should be checked
>>>>
>>> stevenvollom at sbcglobal.net
>>>
>>>> should be in the username and your password should be there.
>>>>
>>> authentication
>>>
>>>> menthod should be plain and encryption should SSL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That is exactly the way I have always had it. Thanks again. You can
>>> see why it is so frustrating, can't you?
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>>
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>> Dear Lindsay,
>>
>> I entered kmail in the konsole. Then I attempted to send a test email
>> to myself. It sent it to the Outbox like before. The Konsole shows my
>> initial kmail entry and the next line is my normal Konsole entry:
>> steven at Studio25:~$. If I have to do something to debug, please advise.
>> And Thanks again for being so tenatious. I may get it working someday.
>>
>>
> Dear Steven,
> I would open a gmail account just for testing purposes. You can then
> configure that account to accept pop and smtp from the web logon, follow
> their instructions to set up an account in mail software (very much like
> the one you have already) and test to send. Btw you should have port
> 465, login with full gmail account (name at gmail.com) and Security should
> be SSL and Plain (not TLS that "server support check" indicates, then it
> just hangs in the outbox...)
>
> If that works - your ISP is doing something funny/strange
> If that does NOT work - something is wrong with your KMail installation
>
> Sinclair
>
>
Dear Sinclair,
I have a gmail account. It is svollom at gmail.com. I still would like
kmail. I want to use all Kubuntu KDE products. I am not without
email. As you can see this email is coming from TBird and I do have
gmail. I am going to reinstall kmail and see if that changes anything.
When I asked AT&T.Yahoo for help they wanted a very high service fee
that I cannot afford to pay, when I can get the service from TBird and
gmail. $100 is like purchasing a lot of new equipment. It is obscene
how some companies abuse Linux users.
Steven
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