AMD64

[Simon Rönnqvist]

On Tuesday 21 March 2006 10:12, Javier wrote:
> On 3/21/06, James Gray <james at grayonline.id.au> wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:35, Lord Sauron wrote:
> > > On 3/20/06, Mats Holmberg <mats.holmberg at elisanet.fi> wrote:
> > > > Lord Sauron wrote:
> > > > >On 3/20/06, scott <sclewin at bmts.com> wrote:
> > > > >>Hi,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    My motherboard died on me so I decided to get both a new
> > > > >> motherboard and chip.  I decided on getting a Sempron and it
> > > > >> supports AMD64.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>    My first question is, should I now download and install the
> > > > >> AMD64 version of Kubuntu?  My second question: how stable is the
> > > > >> AMD64 side
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes and as stable as i386.
> > > >
> > > > Ubuntu core system is stable, yes, but many applications are not.
> > > > Also, there are some features you simply won't get functioning - that
> > > > is easily or completely.
> > >
> > > You can always get it completely compatible.  AMD64 architecture is
> > > really just x86_64 - it's 100%, totally and natively compatible with
> > > i386, 486, 586 and 686 architectures.  Now, you will need to work at
> > > ignoring some architecture dependency checking, assuming you're not a
> > > total moron and try installing the PPC port of something, however,
> > > there is no such thing as a i386/AMD64 compatitibility problem.
> > > Anyone who tells you otherwise is either being blindly loyal to Intel
> > > or has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.  Period.  End of
> > > Subject.
> >
> > There's no question about hardware compatibility.  The question is when
> > running a PURE 64bit system, will it will be possible to get 64bit
> > versionsof certain closed source libraries (CODECS spring to mind).  Sure
> > you can run a 32bit chroot or install 32bit compatibility libs, but
> > that's not a PURE 64 bit system then.
> >
> > You missed half the argument.  Period.  End of Subject.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > James
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> AFAIK there are plans to develop a multiarch spec. for debian. That
> will make it possible to run 32bit apps in a 64bit enviroment without
> a chroot, but that will be in dapper+1 or dapper+2. I think suse and
> fedora already support something similar.
>
> --
>
> Javier

Oh, I always thought it was a concious choise not to mix up 64 and 32bit 
stuff. I don't know why, probably for the sake of tidyness that would pay off 
in the future...

I remember reading something like that Ubuntu (or was it Debian) choosing "a 
different path/way/approach/something" than many other distros, couldn't find 
the source now though.

But hey, from one thing to another... why not include a readymade and 
preconfigured (optional?) 32bit chroot installation with the AMD64 version 
for now? Ordinary people shouldn't have to deal with chroot-environment 
howtos in order to get ordinary stuff like flash-player working.

  cheers, Simon