kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 17, Issue 95
Helio Junior
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Thu Jun 29 10:40:34 UTC 2006
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> 1. Dapper removable media (cd, dvd) KDE Daemon argh!
> (Joe(theWordy)Philbrook)
> 2. Re: Intergrating Firefox and Tbird to KDE- lots of info, no
> solution! (Art Alexion)
> 3. Re: Intergrating Firefox and Tbird to KDE- lots of info, no
> solution! (Dotan Cohen)
> 4. Re: Another problem with network (jerry)
> 5. Re: Another problem with network (jerry)
> 6. Re: Editing Grub (Rafal Zawadzki)
> 7. Re: Another problem with network (Andreas Ruppen)
> 8. download Automatix ? (Dave S)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:53:33 -0400
> From: "Joe(theWordy)Philbrook" <jtwdyp at ttlc.net>
> Subject: Dapper removable media (cd, dvd) KDE Daemon argh!
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Can anyone tell me how to get kde to always silently (no pop-up) wait
> for a user or user initiated application to try to access ANY/ALL
> removable media before doing anything with it???
>
> Preferably without losing any path to device data that kde applications
> might need to find the durned thing when a user selects "open cd" or
> "open dvd" menu choices???
>
> For the most part I've become addicted to kubuntu. It has become my most
> commonly used linux on my multi-boot pc.
>
> However there are a few issues. And automount/autorun processes are among
> the most annoying of them. I can't remember what I did to Breezy to get
> it to stop trying to automatically open a cd/dvd when I'd put one in one
> of the drives (dvd-rom or cd-rw). But once it stopped I was happy with
> the result. I could put ANY cd, data or music, or dvd in one of the
> drives and except for the lights on the drive itself got absolutely no
> reason to think the pc even knew the media was there until I tried to
> access it with an application (kscd, kaffeine, k3b) or mount command.
> Then so long as the media was compatible with what I was trying to open
> it with, it just worked...
>
> Then I did an apt-get upgrade to dapper. And somethings were different.
> SOME are better. Some are annoying, like these pop-up KDE Daemon windows
> asking me what to do with the "new medium" it's detected...
>
> I remember trying the configure button and trying to find a
> configuration that would ignore all types of new media. which "sort of"
> worked until my most recent apt-get upgrade which included some kde
> defaults package <sigh> Now I got the pop-ups back.
>
> Which might not be such a bad thing this time. Because I remember that
> after I got rid of them via the configure button, kscd became unable to
> find the cd regardless of which drive it was in, and every time I wanted
> to open a music cd with {a new session of} kaffeine, I had to specify the
> drive path (/dev/hdd or /dev/hdb worked...) before it could find the cd,
> which wasn't quite the behavior I wanted. But once I stopped getting the
> pop-ups, I didn't know how to get to where the configure button sent me
> to try any other possible settings...
>
> I just want kubuntu/KDE to ALWAYS wait til I issue a command or use an
> application to access whatever I put in the drive before trying to guess
> what I want done, and I do NOT want pop-ups asking me what to do every
> time it notices some new media. And if possible I'd like to be sure that
> NO application on any removable media gets automatically run [EVER].
> Though I might want to be able to run one manually when I'm sure I trust
> the said application enough to do so...
>
> I'm hopeful that there is a way to tell it this, that won't need to be
> redone every time I upgrade with apt-get...
>
> Thanks!
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:01:15 -0400
> From: Art Alexion <art.alexion at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: Intergrating Firefox and Tbird to KDE- lots of info, no
> solution!
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200606281301.27414.art.alexion at verizon.net>
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> On Wednesday 28 June 2006 12:37, Tez wrote:
> > I'm still gonna get rid of it tho, it's not worth installing just for
> > the clear button
>
> Is there a lot of overhead by having it installed?
>
> I like the clear button even more in firefox than in konqueror or other kde
> apps, because I can use Ctrl+u to clear in Konq and other KDE apps, but in
> Firefox, Ctrl+u is "view source".
>
> > (google toolbar has the "up" button).
>
> Don't have the google tool bar.
>
> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:19:14 +0300
> From: "Dotan Cohen" <dotancohen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Intergrating Firefox and Tbird to KDE- lots of info, no
> solution!
> To: art.alexion at verizon.net, "Kubuntu Help and User Discussions"
> <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 28/06/06, Art Alexion <art.alexion at verizon.net> wrote:
> > I like the clear button even more in firefox than in konqueror or other kde
> > apps, because I can use Ctrl+u to clear in Konq and other KDE apps, but in
> > Firefox, Ctrl+u is "view source".
>
> Use the Clear Fields extension. It's pretty good.
>
> Dotan Cohen
> http://what-is-what.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:45:48 -0700
> From: jerry <jturba at nethere.com>
> Subject: Re: Another problem with network
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <44A2CE5C.4070903 at nethere.com>
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> John DeCarlo wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > 1. I would think your eth0 driver would be OK if the other computer can
> > ping you.
> >
> > 2. If you can't ping or connect to the other machine, my first guess
> > would be a routing problem.
> >
> > What is the output of typing "route" on the command line?
> >
> > It should say the default gateway for 192.168.1.0 <http://192.168.1.0>
> > is 192.168.1.1 <http://192.168.1.1> (or whatever your router is). If
> > all you get is a "*", then it is trying to connect over your dial-up,
> > probably. Unless it shows it should use the interface "eth0".
> >
> > What does it say?
> > --
> > John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own
> >
> Here is the result of route:
>
>
> jerry at backup:~ $ route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
>
> I have never set a default gateway. On each computer I connect directly
> to the net via dialup modem, and only use eth0 for ssh. I do not have a
> gateway set on the other computer.
>
> If I were to set a gateway on kubuntu which ip would I use; 192.168.1.0,
> 192.168.1.10?
>
> If I try tracerout here is what I get:
>
> jerry at backup.jerrysdomain.com:/etc/network $ traceroute main
> traceroute to main (192.168.1.50), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1 * * *
> 2 * * *
> 3 * * *
> 4 * * *
> 5 * * *
> 6 * * *
> 7 * * *
> 8 * * *
> 9 * * *
> 10 * * *
> 11 * * *
> 12 * * *
> 13 * * *
> 14 * * *
> 15 * * *
> 16 * * *
> 17 * * *
> 18 * * *
> 19 * * *
> 20 * * *
> 21 * * *
> 22 * * *
> 23 * * *
> 24 * * *
> 25 * * *
> 26 * * *
> 27 * * *
> 28 * * *
> 29 * * *
> 30 * * *
>
> I have no idea what this means.
>
> Thanks for all your help John
>
> Jerry
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:46:16 -0700
> From: jerry <jturba at nethere.com>
> Subject: Re: Another problem with network
> To: andreas.ruppen at gmail.com, Kubuntu Help and User Discussions
> <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <44A2CE78.4030806 at nethere.com>
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> Andreas Ruppen wrote:
> >> I just installed kubuntu and everything went well. The only problem (so
> >> far) is that I can't ping or ssh to my other computer. I can ping and
> >> ssh into kubuntu from the other linux computer.
> >>
> >> I can ping localhost (kubuntu) and I am on dialup and can use the net
> >> without problem.
> > Since internet seems to work a assume that
> > 1) for the ping its a routing problem. When you type "netstat -r" you should
> > get something like:
> > Table de routage IP du noyau
> > Destination Passerelle Genmask Indic MSS Fenêtre irtt
> > Iface
> > 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.248 U 0 0 0
> > eth0
> > 192.168.185.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> > eth1
> > default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
> > eth0
> > exceptc that eth0 sould be ppp0 for you and wlan0 should be eth0.
>
>
>
> jerry at backup:~ $ netstat -r
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
> Iface
> localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> eth0
>
>
> > if you are missing the first route you can try adding it by hand
> > run as sudo:
> > route add -net 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > (if nothing works after remove the rule with route del -net 192.168.1.0)
> >
>
> jerry at backup:~ $ sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> Usage: inet_route [-vF] del {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric
> M] [[dev] If]
> inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric M]
> [netmask N] [mss Mss] [window W] [irtt I]
> [mod] [dyn] [reinstate] [[dev] If]
> inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [metric M] reject
> inet_route [-FC] flush NOT supported
>
>
> > 2) for the ssh issue is sshd running on the other machine?
> > try /etc/init.d/ssh start (as sudo).
>
> jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> [fail]
> jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
> * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> [ ok ]
> jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> [ ok ]
>
>
> > BUT TRY FIST FIX THE PING ISSUE. Cause your line timed out.
> >
> >> jerry at backup:~ $ cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config
> >> # $OpenBSD: ssh_config,v 1.20 2005/01/28 09:45:53 dtucker Exp $
> >>
> > [snip]
> > i'm not a specialist but my file looks like this
> >
> > Host *
> > # ForwardAgent no
> > # ForwardX11 no
> > # ForwardX11Trusted yes
> > # RhostsRSAAuthentication no
> > # RSAAuthentication yes
> > # PasswordAuthentication yes
> > # HostbasedAuthentication no
> > # BatchMode no
> > # CheckHostIP yes
> > # AddressFamily any
> > # ConnectTimeout 0
> > # StrictHostKeyChecking ask
> > # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/identity
> > # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
> > # IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
> > # Port 22
> > # Protocol 2,1
> > # Cipher 3des
> > # Ciphers
> > aes128-cbc,3des-cbc,blowfish-cbc,cast128-cbc,arcfour,aes192-cbc,aes256-cbc
> > # EscapeChar ~
> > SendEnv LANG LC_*
> > HashKnownHosts yes
> >
>
> I added your last 2 lines to my ssh_config but no luck.
>
> Can I assume that port 22 is open on the other computer to receive ssh
> if it can send through ssh?
>
> I have been trying a lot of changes to various networking files. After a
> change is all I need to do is restart /etc/init.d/ssh or networking?
>
> Thanks for you help Andreas
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:07:06 +0200
> From: Rafal Zawadzki <bluszcz at jabberpl.org>
> Subject: Re: Editing Grub
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200606282107.10342.bluszcz at jabberpl.org>
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> Dnia środa, 28 czerwca 2006 12:07, Richard E. Barmann napisał:
> > When I go to edit Grub I use the right mouse button which will bring a menu
> > that contains "actions". Actions has a choice "edit as root" I choose this
> > and then save.
> > My problem.--- The master drive has kubuntu on it. It is called hda1 but in
> > disks it also says windows NTFS. The slave drive has windowsXP installed
> > and is called hdb1 but reads extended 3. Because of this I cannot get Grub
> > right to load windows. Kubuntu loads fine but windows has an error. I have
>
> hd2,0?
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:47:53 +0200
> From: Andreas Ruppen <andreas.ruppen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Another problem with network
> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> > jerry at backup:~ $ netstat -r
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
> > Iface
> > localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> > eth0
>
> ok i still think its a routing problem.
> >
> > jerry at backup:~ $ sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0
> > Usage: inet_route [-vF] del {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric
> > M] [[dev] If]
> > inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric
> > M]
> > [netmask N] [mss Mss] [window W] [irtt I]
> > [mod] [dyn] [reinstate] [[dev] If]
> > inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [metric M]
> > reject
> > inet_route [-FC] flush NOT supported
>
> ok it's my fault. The man page is too old in fact the command should be
> jerry at backup:~ $ sudo route add -net 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
> maybe you must replace -net by -host but i think not.
> Can you post the output of netstat -r but this time on the other machine.
> The machine form wich you can do ssh.
>
>
> >> 2) for the ssh issue is sshd running on the other machine?
> >> try /etc/init.d/ssh start (as sudo).
> >
> > jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
> > * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> > [fail]
> > jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop
> > * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> > [ ok ]
> > jerry at backup:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
> > * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
> > [ ok ]
> to log into the other machine sshd must run on the machine 192.168.1.50
> main.jerrysdomain.com main. So the the command
> jerry at main:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
> but this time on the other machine (main.jerrysdomain.com)
>
>
> > Can I assume that port 22 is open on the other computer to receive ssh
> > if it can send through ssh?
> if there is no firewall on the other machine yes. Try
> jerry at main:~ $ sudo iptables -L
> but also on the other machine (main.****)
>
> > I have been trying a lot of changes to various networking files. After a
> > change is all I need to do is restart /etc/init.d/ssh or networking?
> Depends on wich file you touched. restart networking alos just to be sure.
>
>
>
>
>
Message: 8
Hi,
Try this:
http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
You may also try EasyUbuntu:
http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
Good Luck.
H.
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:44:31 +0100
> From: Dave S <kubuntu at pusspaws.net>
> Subject: download Automatix ?
> To: kubuntu list <kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <200606282244.31115.kubuntu at pusspaws.net>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Can anyone tell me where I can download automatix from - I have tried
> googleing but seem to hit dead links.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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