Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing

[Simon Rönnqvist]

On Oct 14, 2005, at 20:48, Derek Broughton wrote:

> Simon Rönnqvist wrote:
>
>
>> Speaking of the forums... I just noticed that there are now different
>> Kubuntu forums plus this mailinglist, wouldn't there be a reason to
>> unify these resources?
>>
>
> _That_ is as likely to happen as a hoary to breezy upgrade with no
> scares :-)  Many of us don't LIKE forums.  Yes, at a mere 47, I'm  
> an old
> dinosaur, but I don't find most forums readable.
>
>
>> Now there's at least the Kubuntu section under
>> de Ubuntu forum, the separate Kubuntu forum and this mailinglist.
>>
>
> The Ubuntu Forum (or at least _an_ Ubuntu forum - I don't know if  
> we're
> talking about the same thing) is already gatewayed to the Ubuntu list.
> Frankly, I wish it either wasn't, or was at least done better, because
> every post from there comes in as if from 'Forum User, and they  
> never quote
> (because quoting is mostly unnecessary and always awkward in a  
> forum).  I
> don't know if they've gatewayed the Kubuntu forum, because I  
> killfiled the
> Forum User posts, as they mostly made no sense.

   Well... you're probably right... but at least unifying the forums  
would be nice...
But maybe maybe GNOME/KDE-religious fanatism would get in the way... ;-)

When it comes to the mailinglists it probably doesn't make sense  
though... just like Art just said (in another post) even the Ubuntu  
list should be split into many.

>> In a sense I think that the most sensible place to discuss would be
>> under the Ubuntu forum, since Kubuntu and Ubuntu have such a lot of
>> things in common. Or essentially they're one single distro pretending
>> to be two. :-)
>>
>
> Try spending a little time on the Ubuntu user list, then.  There's  
> a good
> deal of Gnomish snobbery.  See reaction to my recent post after Mark
> Shuttleworth asked us to participate in an OSDL survey.  I  
> complained that
> the survey didn't work in Konqueror.  Most respondents were of the  
> opinion
> that it didn't matter because it worked in Firefox.  One even had  
> the gall
> to tell me that it wasn't something I should be bringing to the  
> attention
> of "the developer" because Ubuntu was "about Gnome".  Never mind that
> Ubuntu isn't "about Gnome": OSDL isn't even "about Ubuntu".
>
> So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that -  
> though
> you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little,  
> if any,
> help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu  
> list.  I
> still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists,  
> though.

   Oh boy...
I remember when I was a kid, there were a lot of Amiga fanatics  
around... along came the Mac fanatics (who are still around) of which  
I was one for a long time... Lately I even was kind of Gnome fanatic,  
just because KDE looked so damn Windows-like. As time went by I just  
noticed while browsing software in my Synaptic, that much of the  
software that sounded interesting required a lot of KDE-stuff...  
Eventually I just threw in the "kubuntu-desktop" package and a few  
pieces of software that I wanted. After a while I found myself using  
mostly KDE-software from Gnome, so I even gave KDE itself a try... I  
made it look like my Gnome, just to get rid of the replusive Windows  
look. Now I'm a bit unsertain which one to use, I definitely like the  
KDE software suite better, but Gnome seems somewhat less flickery and  
flaky than KDE. One could say that KDE stands for quantity and Gnome  
for quality, when it comes to features. Anyways, due to the richer  
feature set and flexibility KDE might just be the winner... even  
though it could lend some of the smoothness from Gnome. Oh now I got  
way off topic... ;-) And what do I know, but maybe you've got some  
comments on my highly intuitive and unscientific observations?
Well to get to the point: It's good for personal development trying  
not to be fanatic about anything, fanatism can make you miss a lot of  
things. ;-) So that's why I'll really TRY to make a sober decision  
this time around...

   cheers, Simon
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