Forums (was Re: Scary upgrade thing

[Derek Broughton]

Simon Rönnqvist wrote:

> Speaking of the forums... I just noticed that there are now different
> Kubuntu forums plus this mailinglist, wouldn't there be a reason to
> unify these resources? 

_That_ is as likely to happen as a hoary to breezy upgrade with no
scares :-)  Many of us don't LIKE forums.  Yes, at a mere 47, I'm an old
dinosaur, but I don't find most forums readable.

> Now there's at least the Kubuntu section under 
> de Ubuntu forum, the separate Kubuntu forum and this mailinglist. 

The Ubuntu Forum (or at least _an_ Ubuntu forum - I don't know if we're
talking about the same thing) is already gatewayed to the Ubuntu list. 
Frankly, I wish it either wasn't, or was at least done better, because
every post from there comes in as if from 'Forum User, and they never quote
(because quoting is mostly unnecessary and always awkward in a forum).  I
don't know if they've gatewayed the Kubuntu forum, because I killfiled the
Forum User posts, as they mostly made no sense.

> In a sense I think that the most sensible place to discuss would be
> under the Ubuntu forum, since Kubuntu and Ubuntu have such a lot of
> things in common. Or essentially they're one single distro pretending
> to be two. :-)

Try spending a little time on the Ubuntu user list, then.  There's a good
deal of Gnomish snobbery.  See reaction to my recent post after Mark
Shuttleworth asked us to participate in an OSDL survey.  I complained that
the survey didn't work in Konqueror.  Most respondents were of the opinion
that it didn't matter because it worked in Firefox.  One even had the gall
to tell me that it wasn't something I should be bringing to the attention
of "the developer" because Ubuntu was "about Gnome".  Never mind that
Ubuntu isn't "about Gnome": OSDL isn't even "about Ubuntu".

So what I'm really trying to say, in a long winded way, is that - though
you're right that Ubuntu is a single distro - you will get little, if any,
help on KDE specific questions from the participants of the Ubuntu list.  I
still think it's best to follow both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists, though.
-- 
derek