kubuntu vs ubuntu

[Simon Rönnqvist]

On Sunday 06 November 2005 20:08, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Simon Rönnqvist wrote:
> > But for Kubuntu and KDE in general a problem is that people get put of by
> > it's M$ Windowish look.
>
> I'm sure some do.  otoh, I think we get many more converts _because_ the
> Windowish look doesn't scare off Windows users.  It doesn't _have_ to look
> like Windows, and a nice "look & feel" tutorial would be nice.

  Well...
As I wrote earlier... I think Gnome is rather more traditional by it's 
functionality, and would maybe be even Windows-like users if one would just 
re-arrange the menus (which is really easy) and make the theme more 
Windows-like.

When it comes to actual functionality I think that KDE is more different and 
progressive. It actually kind of approaches Jacob Nielsen's  idea of the 
future of the web. (I don't otherwise like the guy, but I refer to 'em 
anyways ;-) In a nutshell his idea is that the web and ordinary software will 
merge. With Konqueror as a remote and local filemanager as well as a web 
browser this vision is getting one step closer.

> > When it comes to Ubuntu I dislike the window style and maybe the icons a
> > little bit. I prefer using Clearlooks for the Window borders with the
> > Human Controls, and just some other icons than the default GNOME ones
> > maybe Human or Sandy.
>
> Sounds like you've done a fair bit of experimenting with this.  How'd you
> like to write up a nice how-to with screen shots? :-)

  Well, when  it comes to Ubuntu I haven't spent so much time with it... I 
just combined elements in between the default themes. So everything was done 
through the point and click environment using the customize theme button. 
This anybody should be able to do just by pointing and clicking... When it 
comes to KDE again I've played around a bit more, but still just using 
installed themes and point and clicking... The theme I referred to was a 
result of this, so that should be enough by itself, without any further 
instructions. Besides, all these things are just according to my personal 
taste... other may like it in a different way.

> >> > The worst showstopper for Kubuntu right now seems to be the poorly
> >> > working settings (in Breezy). (And maybe the fact that CD:s don't open
> >> > in Konqueror.)
>
> I think the "showstopper" is that most upgraders don't realize they need to
> use "breezy-updates".  Perhaps the "-updates" repository should be turned
> on in the default sources.list.  iirc, it's commented out which isn't a
> very good idea: pre-release, one would expect it to be empty, so no harm if
> it's present; post-release, it's needed.

  Indeed...
Actually I even thing that the system should ask the user wether it he wants 
the extra repositories enabled explaining what that means, that is why one 
would want to have them or not have them enabled. I think most people want to 
have all of the repositories enabled, and yet many newbies may not know about 
them.

> >> Automounting is fixed with the updates in breezy-updates.
> >
> >   Oh, thanks for the hint... I hadn't noticed the updates. ;-)
>
> QED :-)

As I wrote here earlier (but after the "thanks for the hint") it doesn't seem 
to work on my PowerPC version even after the update, though... and yes I've 
got breezy-updates enabled. ;-)

  cheers, Simon