Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmerman at
Mon Apr 11 22:14:53 UTC 2016

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Clive Johnston <clivejo at> wrote:
> Hi all,
> The version in the xenial archive does not work as it requires libmuon which
> cant be installed.  This renders it totally useless without hacking stuff
> together.
> The current snapshot of Muon from KDE git needs a current snapshot of libqapt
> in order to run properly.  The reason for this is because the last commit
> introduces a mechanism to detect cache reloading and emits a signal when that
> happens.  Basically these two pieces of software need each other to function
> correctly (sender/receiver model) Muon will crash without the updated libqapt.
> p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=e63d3239a7846eb968151ebdd4f12e0921e0f13a
> I packaged both libqapt & muon and have been using them for a few weeks now
> with no problems. Several other people have also tested it.  I opened a FFE
> request to try and get it into Xenial
> However, no-one from the release team has acknowledged my request.  I even
> asked mhall to look into it for us, but still nothing.  The problem is that we
> need to upload both libqapt and muon together for this to work, and I cant
> find anyone to sponsor me to do that.
> Rick and I were working on cleaning up the packaging for release and I noticed
> mhall asking for help in the release channel only to be totally ignored, so
> I'm afraid to say I let frustration and pure ill temper win and I washed my
> hands of it all.
> I pushed some of the packaging to the kubuntu_unstable branches in Debian, but
> they still need minor work (changelog synced with archive and muon build deps
> cleaned up).
> Clive
> On Monday, 11 April 2016 20:40:43 BST Rick Timmis wrote:
>> On 10/03/16 04:34, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
>> > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Mitch Golden <mgolden at>
> wrote:
>> >> I know that muon (libqapt2 actually) is not available in the current
>> >> backports repository.  Is it planned to include muon in the 16.04
>> >> release? I have been doing some work on trying to get muon and libqapt
>> >> to build, so far with only partial success.
>> >>
>> >>   - Mitch Golden
>> >
>> > Hey Mitch, I don't see a reply to you about Muon. As far as I know,
>> > Muon will not be on the ISO. What a query to ubottu in IRC shows me is
>> > that it is in universe, version 4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1 (xenial).
>> >
>> > Perhaps Rick Timmis can tell us more?
>> >
>> > Valorie
>> Hi
>> Muon was orphaned, Ovidiu-florin and I have said that we will take on
>> it's maintainence.
>> I have worked with Clive to get it packaged, and we have it building. It
>> crashes on checking for updates, and we're looking into that
>> There is another Carlos I believe who has done some work on Muon, and
>> has proposed rebuilding the UI in QML, but we'll have to see how that goes.
>> I hope to get it packaged and testing in the coming 2 weeks. I don't see
>> it making the release ISO in 16.04, but we'll try to get it updated in
>> the repo's and perhaps we can rebundle it in 16.10
>> Hope that helps
>> Rick

I think what might really help is getting Muon released, along with
libqapt. Asking the release team for an FFE for git snapshots seems a
bit questionable, especially for an LTS. Can you get a release done


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