Kubuntu Website Sprint

Sat Feb 28 12:01:56 UTC 2015

In about an hour please join me here: https://meet.jit.si/KubuntuWebsiteSprint[1] 

În ziua de Sîm 28 Feb 2015, la 12:42:34, Paweł Abramowicz a scris:
> Sorry, I didn't notice the moment we went from the kubuntu-devel to private
> with devel as the second recipient.
> 
> Electricity is back up, but Internet connection is still not reliable.
> 28 lut 2015 11:59 "Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN" <ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com> napisał(a):
> 
> >  Please use the reply to all function from now on.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm sending this so the Mail list can keep track of our conversation.
> >
> >
> >
> > În ziua de Sîm 28 Feb 2015, la 10:28:01, Paweł Abramowicz a scris:
> >
> > > Ugh, whole University district is out of electricity. I'll notify you
> > when
> >
> > > I get anything to power my laptop and connect it to the Internet.
> >
> > > 28 lut 2015 02:45 "Paweł Abramowicz" <pawelabrams at gmail.com> napisał(a):
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > A video chat is fine, I'm available from 11:00 UTC to 16:00 UTC (12-17
> >
> > > > CET) with a 15 min break around 14 UTC to get back home from job
> > (which is
> >
> > > > of wait-until-something-breaks-administration, so yes, I can accept
> > calls
> >
> > > > during work). I prefer Skype and web-based technologies; as you are a
> > GMail
> >
> > > > user, too, we can talk via Google Hangouts, or just determine details
> > there.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > I haven't mentioned that, but I would rather use Breeze
> >
> > > > (plasma-next-icons) where available - and seek/ask for fitting icons
> > for
> >
> > > > where we can't choose one of them. It just adds to the consistency with
> >
> > > > general look and feel with the system, which is a good thing - you can
> >
> > > > always tell if you're on Kubuntu website, if it looks as Kubuntu
> > itself.
> >
> > > > Another reason is that the prospective user can determine if they like
> > the
> >
> > > > default UI or they should start looking for customisations as soon as
> > they
> >
> > > > start download ;)
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > Oh, and I forgot to say I've developed themes for Wordpress, so
> > anything I
> >
> > > > present as a sketch can be made into a Worpress theme; maybe without
> > the
> >
> > > > shiny admin panel where you can change almost everything, but
> > certainly a
> >
> > > > good integration with all the needed options can be done.
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > 2015-02-28 0:15 GMT+01:00 Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN <ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com>:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >> What would you say we have a Video chat tomorrow and discuss this?
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> I've already had a few plans on how to achieve what you've said, bit
> > with
> >
> > > >> the Advertica Lite theme. There still are a lot of pieces to be put
> >
> > > >> toghether though.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> I've got a friend of mine do design some new icons and pictures for
> > the
> >
> > > >> site.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> Tell me when you can meet.
> >
> > > >>
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> > > >>
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> > > >>
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> > > >> În ziua de Joi 26 Feb 2015, la 21:50:21, Paweł Abramowicz a scris:
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Nah, it really *is* "tl".
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > So tl;dr:
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Advertica Lite good for a news site, which might be different from
> > the
> >
> > > >> main landing site.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Landing site should contain "call-to-action": a simplified way to
> >
> > > >> download Kubuntu; feature tour should either be a cta or be the main
> > page.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Not included in original message: people scroll more, click less
> > than
> >
> > > >> before [citation needed, although I've seen some research on this].
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Good examples of distro sites: http://www.ubuntu.com/ ;
> >
> > > >> http://elementary.io/ ; good for its purposes: https://getfedora.org/
> > ;
> >
> > > >> good usability, not quite good design: http://www.linuxmint.com/ (not
> >
> > > >> incl. in orig.) ; BAD EXAMPLES: https://www.archlinux.org/ ;
> >
> > > >> https://www.debian.org/ .
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Make it more vivid ( ;) ) by showing a photo with a Kubuntu-running
> >
> > > >> Linux in a good-looking environment.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > And yeah, I forgot to mention mobiles: instead of call to download -
> >
> > > >> "let us send you an e-mail with a download link".
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Everything for now, I think.
> >
> > > >>
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> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
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> > > >> > 2015-02-26 21:48 GMT+01:00 Paweł Abramowicz <pawelabrams at gmail.com
> > >:
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Hey,
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > This is Paweł 'Avras' Abramowicz here, the Quintasan's flatmate from
> >
> > > >> earlier discussion; together with a bunch of my friends we're
> > designing
> >
> > > >> websites for some time now.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > To add my two pennies worth; I see Advertica Lite as a very
> > refreshing
> >
> > > >> proposal, but as it is a multi-purpose theme, it would need some
> > serious
> >
> > > >> tweaking to fit Kubuntu perfectly. Its text pages are really good,
> > and it
> >
> > > >> would be a neat theme for Kubuntu News, obviously, but rearranging
> > the tour
> >
> > > >> and main page using Wordpress and Wordpress only (even with theme
> > options,
> >
> > > >> but without struggling with editing the theme's CSS and PHP) might
> > prove
> >
> > > >> difficult. I have minor concerns about the parallax, too; it must be
> > done
> >
> > > >> right to achieve any effect, and not just be a pure decoration – and
> > when
> >
> > > >> it is, it must be a bit more subtle.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > Browsing through other distros' sites I've observed a few features
> >
> > > >> worth discussing. I'll drop the links on the end of my e-mail.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > To start with, the first page a potential user sees of Ubuntu [1],
> >
> > > >> Elementary OS [2] or even Fedora [3] to some extent, are optimised for
> >
> > > >> newcomers; they have either a feature tour right on the first page, or
> >
> > > >> there is a big button (or, as marketers say, a Call-To-Action) to
> > download
> >
> > > >> or see for yourself if you are not yet convinced. Debian [4] tried,
> > but the
> >
> > > >> only thing they did is a white button, not big enough for a 1366x768
> >
> > > >> screen, not to mention Full HD ones.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > There is a trend to delegate the news section to a dedicated blog
> > [2n],
> >
> > > >> [3n]. It might be a fad, but I think it's a good idea, and you can
> > use a
> >
> > > >> distinct, but similar theme for the blog. I think that's where
> > Advertica
> >
> > > >> Lite should go, as its typography is perfect, but the landing page is
> > not
> >
> > > >> convincing enough. A different look for a news site allows for a few
> >
> > > >> modifications, too; you can expose RSS feed and category listings,
> > and hide
> >
> > > >> irrelevant options from the menu. The main page and the rest of the
> > site is
> >
> > > >> mostly about visuals; the news site is all about text.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > The question if Advertica Lite won't just be maintaining a status
> > quo
> >
> > > >> in people's reaction (except from the change from "oh, it's old" to
> > "oh,
> >
> > > >> it's new") is not about what it does right, but about what it
> > doesn't, and
> >
> > > >> what's wrong that it doesn't avoid. It's basically another do-all
> > news site
> >
> > > >> without a strong feeling of what you should do next. I know Kubuntu
> > is not
> >
> > > >> a commercial project, and we don't need to bait people into buying
> >
> > > >> anything, but it would be beneficial even for a veteran user to have a
> >
> > > >> visual cue to locate the download button; the download process itself
> >
> > > >> should be straight-forward and amount of clicks needed should be
> > minimised.
> >
> > > >> A new release, or just a current number of a version the download
> > button
> >
> > > >> points to, should be easy to spot. The intent of the page – here, we
> > have
> >
> > > >> the best Linux for both casual and experienced users, that is good for
> >
> > > >> every environment – should be clear.
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > The bad practices are now easy to point in ArchLinux' site[5] - a
> > KISS
> >
> > > >> distro that has a reddit-type, complex website, where there is only
> > one
> >
> > > >> download button, hidden from plain sight. Debian[4] is not good
> > either -
> >
> > > >> it's engineer's interpretation of good practices in design, that
> > turned out
> >
> > > >> badly. The 16-colour-palette blue is not a pleasant hue, the download
> >
> > > >> call-to-action is tiny on Full HD screens, and while the site is
> >
> > > >> responsive, it is certainly not mobile-friendly (links are densely
> > packed,
> >
> > > >> the colors are too contrasting and hurt eyes in the long run).
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> >
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> > To end on a positive note, there are a few features worth using :)
> > The
> >
> > > >> double menu (static big one in header and fixed top when scrolled
> > down) is
> >
> > > >> a good idea, but its execution could be a bit better [6]. The header
> > image
> >
> > > >> is OK, but it can contain a call-to-action within it,
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> --
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> GeekAliens.com <http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com>
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >> Kubuntu România
> >
> > > >>
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN
> >
> > GeekAliens.com <http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com>
> >
> > Kubuntu România
> >


*Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN*
GeekAliens.com[2]
Kubuntu România

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