Kubuntu Council -- how can we help?

Valorie Zimmerman valorie.zimmerman at gmail.com
Tue Dec 29 08:52:29 UTC 2015


This is a great reminder to take time off! This is supposed to be fun.
When it's not, please warn people you are taking a holiday, like
Scarlett did, and recharge your batteries!

And don't let me or anybody else guilt you into burnout.

Valorie

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Scarlett Clark
<scarlett.gately.clark at gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh for gosh darn sakes, can I not have a break and not get messages like
> these to make me feel guilty? I am seriously on the verge of burnout.
> Holidays is all I asked for. It is not too much for an unpaid volunteer to
> ask for. Really.
> Scarlett
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ovidiu-Florin BOGDAN
> <ovidiu.b13 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> În ziua de Sunday 27 December 2015, la 22:46:59, Valorie Zimmerman a
>> scris:
>>
>> > Hello folks, I know it's the holidays. Still, we need some forward
>>
>> > movement. It seem that it is the duty of your Council to help out.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Recently I've noticed rather often in #kubuntu people asking why the
>>
>> > only news on the website is Jon leaving. I've explained that he's not
>>
>> > leaving, merely stepping back from his positiuon as release manager,
>>
>> > but the questions continue. Clivejo recently point this out in
>>
>> > #kubuntu-devel, and said: "I do think the KCC need to take the lead :P
>>
>> > "
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Continuing, "if someone shows an interest, net them quickly and get
>>
>> > them communicating with the people who can help develop the skills
>>
>> > <clivejo> people look at the website and see no activity since Jon
>>
>> > "stood" down. New people just see that as a community falling apart
>>
>> > :( "
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I agree, and we all need to take the lead. As I see it, our first
>>
>> > priority is to get those packaging docs in order. When new people
>>
>> > volunteer, we need something to point them to, when there is no
>>
>> > developer around to take their hand directly. And whenever they have
>>
>> > time, they can use the docs for review, or learn about a different
>>
>> > task, or even improve on what we have. I believe that a group is
>>
>> > coalescing to begin this work. How can the KC help?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Caydoh asked, "Is there a way to post an article announcement for the
>>
>> > last plasma release we had, or announcing kubuntu podcast epsisodes?
>>
>> > Surely there is some things we can post on the site to show something
>>
>> > is going on without having to explain and/or apologize for delays."
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I agree. We need to get some news on the site weekly, at least. Even
>>
>> > just a few sentences pointing to a Dot story. Who does this now, and
>>
>> > how can the KC help?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Caydoh also asks "With the very short turnarounds in plasma version
>>
>> > releases, let alone Frameworks and Applications, how should we manage
>>
>> > those?"
>>
>> >
>>
>> > I would love to see us start off the new year in a positive way. What
>>
>> > are some steps we can take to begin?
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Valorie
>>
>> >
>>
>> >
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>>
>>
>> I just went through the documentation we have for packaging:
>> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu#Packaging and I'm sad to say that (I
>> think) we don't have packaging documentation. We can barely call that an
>> outline. Barely!
>>
>> If there's some docs elsewhere, please let me know, so we may try to merge
>> them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've talked with Philip, Clive, and Aaron to have a sprint in 28-30 Dec.
>> 2015 and clean this up.
>>
>> So far we've made this:
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SoO83PepBkU_kkbLL2eIeVDYYDzv6OEA1npVoCp7wHo
>>
>> It's just a crude overview of how things interact with each other. Please
>> provide feedback.
>>
>>
>>
>> From here we plan to make other diagrams and texts that explain each
>> section in more detail. But...
>>
>>
>>
>> The biggest problem is... time and resources. I mean, it's the holidays,
>> and (from what I can understand) only Philip and Scarlett know what's
>> actually going on here. Me and Clive are desperatly trying to understand how
>> things are going and work on something but we need help.
>>
>>
>>
>> This situation is getting very frustating to all of us. I recommend that
>> we have a meeting as soon as possible with the KC and some devs/packagers
>> and talk about how we can sort this out best.
>>
>> I'd love to do this before the new year's eve, so we may progress with
>> work, so we have some good/great news on the podcast in the 6th of January.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ovidiu-Florin Bogdan
>>
>> GeekAliens.com
>>
>> Kubuntu Romania Representative
>>
>> Kubuntu Council Member



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