Ktorrent Status/Replacement

[Scarlett Clark]

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:04:54 AM Ralph Janke wrote:
> On 2014-11-20 10:26, Scarlett Clark wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:21:41 AM Ralph Janke wrote:
> >> On 2014-11-20 09:34, Harald Sitter wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On Thursday, November 20, 2014 03:17:33 PM Harald Sitter wrote:
> >> >>> fwiw if only we had a policy to deal with dead upstreams....
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Kitterman
> >> >>> <ubuntu at kitterman.com>
> >> >> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> > Ktorrent is the current default torrent client that we provide in
> >> >>> > Kubuntu.
> >> >>> > Now that we've transitioned to Plasma 5, it's no longer
> >> >>> > buildable/installable in "Vivid".
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> > The upstream web site is down: http://ktorrent.org/
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> ^ that wouldn't be the qualifier on whether it suffers from dead
> >> >>> upstream
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> > I looked in KDE git and there's no sign of a KF5/Plasma 5 port:
> >> >>> > https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/ktorrent/reposi
> >> >>> > tor
> >> >>> > y
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> ^ that wouldn't either
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> > My conclusion is that ktorrent isn't an option for Vivid, so we
> >> >>> > either
> >> >>> > need to stop shipping a torrent client or pick a different one.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> ^ those wouldn't be the primary options
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> food for thought
> >> >> 
> >> >> JR fixed it, so it's not an immediate issue.
> >> >> 
> >> >> IMO it wasn't so much a dead upstream issue as a no longer works with
> >> >> Plasma 5
> >> >> issue.  The dead upstream just made that less likely to get better on
> >> >> its own.
> >> > 
> >> > my point is that there is no dead upstream, as no one tried to talk to
> >> > upstream (nor brought it to the attention of the large kde developer
> >> > community).
> >> 
> >> The question is IMHO if you could ever consider an upstream dead. By
> >> definition
> >> this would mean that it would never become alive again. However, in
> >> Open
> >> Source,
> >> anybody can pick up the source and so a new group of people can take
> >> over the
> >> maintenance without anybody else being able to prevent it.
> >> 
> >> So I would rephrase this question. How would you consider that a
> >> source
> >> is
> >> obsolete in the sense that there is a better one the replaces the
> >> first
> >> one
> >> and it does not make sense to put any kind of work in it anymore. Or,
> >> if
> >> it
> >> is still a valid choice, how to create the helpful flow of information
> >> that
> >> allows people to step forward to keep it maintained.
> > 
> > Just an FYI Ktorrent is next on the Gardening team to do. We were able
> > to get
> > a new release with k3b and sparked new life into it. Please don't deem
> > Ktorrent dead just yet.
> > Scarlett
> 
> So, How would I be able to contribute to the gardening of ktorrent
> without
> spending a lot of time with administrative stuff? While I am passionate
> about
> writing software, I have grown tired with the administrative hurdles in
> Open Source projects and currently rather started my own projects which
> I
> can just work on whenever I like to. However, I am willing to give it
> another
> try with ktorrent (or other similar things) if it helps.

Gardening is a great project, no commitments required. All help is welcome.
You can find more info here:
https://community.kde.org/Gardening
Thanks,
Scarlett


-- 
Scarlett Clark
Kubuntu Developer
KDE Contributor
IRC: sgclark
Email: sgclark at kubuntu.org
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