[kubuntu-devel] Change the default settings of Kubuntu to improve the first time

[Tomasz Dudzik]

I'm glad to hear that someone's working on the other stuff i mention.
Lightdm please leave in my hands. I have an idea for the installer too.
Please stay tuned.

2013/1/23 Tomasz Dudzik <madsheytan at gmail.com>

> Jonathan, please look at what i said. We don't need to add new features,
> that are not KDE's default, etc. We need to improve the
> *first exeprience:*
> *
> *
> *-don't use KDE's default wallpaper every where (login, plymouth,
> installer, desktop), use wallpaper as a wallpaper and create a *
> *nice background for plymouth, another one for lightdm and splash. This
> gives a cooler look&feel. People like this.*
>
> 2013/1/23 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell at ubuntu.com>
>
>> Thanks for your suggestions.  Our general philosphies with default
>> settings is:
>> -working by default, no first run configuration dialogues
>> -go with upstream's settings unless there's a very good reason
>> -keep it simple, don't clutter with too many features
>> -KDE first
>>
>> >    Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice
>> during
>> >    the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways
>>
>> first run configuration dialogues are nasty, how would the user know what
>> to choose?
>>
>> >      Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a
>> "not
>> >      ready yet software" as a default application, especially because
>> we are
>> >      talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90%
>> daily
>> >      use of computer for most of the people out there.
>>
>> It's a controvertial choice for sure, it fits in with my general KDE
>> idealism but it has been disappointing in how buggy it can be.
>>
>> But Firefox has no KDE integration and Chromium isn't supported for
>> the length of our supported releases.  And since they are not KDE apps
>> they require a whole load of extra dependencies.
>>
>> >      Dragon Player
>>
>> Dragon Player nicely integrates with KDE.  vlc has a really cluttered UI
>> for most users.
>>
>> >like Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect
>> >      and so on.....
>>
>> Our images are currently full up for our (arbitrary) 1GB size limit, so
>> any new addition means removing something such as a language pack.
>>
>> Having said that these kdeutils seem like useful additions and should not
>> take up too much space.
>>
>> >      We want talk about Yakuake
>>
>> Yakuake is fun but it breaks the normal UI conventions so isn't suitable
>> for default use.
>>
>> > A calcuator, a converter, and everything can gives
>> >      a better ideas about what can be done in plasma in a quick and
>> easy way.
>>
>> We don't like to clutter the desktop or panel (that's a general Ubuntu
>> philosophy). Adding favourite plasmoids can be easily done by users
>> and is generally best left up to them since a setup for one user won't
>> be very useful for another.
>>
>> >    Activities:
>>
>> We're behind here and need to review what upstream do in default
>> activities and desktops.  We shouldn't have two desktops by default now
>> with activities.
>>
>> Having said that I find activities unintuitive, there's no panel pager
>> to change them and no window animation on switch so if I accidently
>> press win-tab I just get all my windows disappearing :(
>>
>> >      I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled
>> like
>> >      rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be
>> very
>> >      useful if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking
>> about
>> >      buttons on the window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep
>> Above
>> >      Others", and I'm quite sure most of the new user not even knows it
>> can
>> >      be done, instead once is there it's really easy to understand how
>> and
>> >      when to use it.
>> >      Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by
>> >      default is the ability to change the transparency of a window just
>> >      pressing ALT and rolling the mouse wheel.
>>
>> First question to ask is why are these not turned on upstream?
>> There's a danger with default like this that users will active them
>> accidently and have no ide awhat happened or how to revert (like
>> pressing win-tab).
>>
>> >    I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the
>> job
>>
>> Ug, we don't want to take up extra screen space better used by
>> applications.
>>
>> Let the discussion continue.. :)
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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