[kubuntu-devel] Change the default settings of Kubuntu to improve the first time

[Tomasz Dudzik]

Jonathan, please look at what i said. We don't need to add new features,
that are not KDE's default, etc. We need to improve the
*first exeprience:*
*
*
*-don't use KDE's default wallpaper every where (login, plymouth,
installer, desktop), use wallpaper as a wallpaper and create a *
*nice background for plymouth, another one for lightdm and splash. This
gives a cooler look&feel. People like this.*

2013/1/23 Jonathan Riddell <jriddell at ubuntu.com>

> Thanks for your suggestions.  Our general philosphies with default
> settings is:
> -working by default, no first run configuration dialogues
> -go with upstream's settings unless there's a very good reason
> -keep it simple, don't clutter with too many features
> -KDE first
>
> >    Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice
> during
> >    the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways
>
> first run configuration dialogues are nasty, how would the user know what
> to choose?
>
> >      Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a
> "not
> >      ready yet software" as a default application, especially because we
> are
> >      talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90%
> daily
> >      use of computer for most of the people out there.
>
> It's a controvertial choice for sure, it fits in with my general KDE
> idealism but it has been disappointing in how buggy it can be.
>
> But Firefox has no KDE integration and Chromium isn't supported for
> the length of our supported releases.  And since they are not KDE apps
> they require a whole load of extra dependencies.
>
> >      Dragon Player
>
> Dragon Player nicely integrates with KDE.  vlc has a really cluttered UI
> for most users.
>
> >like Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect
> >      and so on.....
>
> Our images are currently full up for our (arbitrary) 1GB size limit, so
> any new addition means removing something such as a language pack.
>
> Having said that these kdeutils seem like useful additions and should not
> take up too much space.
>
> >      We want talk about Yakuake
>
> Yakuake is fun but it breaks the normal UI conventions so isn't suitable
> for default use.
>
> > A calcuator, a converter, and everything can gives
> >      a better ideas about what can be done in plasma in a quick and easy
> way.
>
> We don't like to clutter the desktop or panel (that's a general Ubuntu
> philosophy). Adding favourite plasmoids can be easily done by users
> and is generally best left up to them since a setup for one user won't
> be very useful for another.
>
> >    Activities:
>
> We're behind here and need to review what upstream do in default
> activities and desktops.  We shouldn't have two desktops by default now
> with activities.
>
> Having said that I find activities unintuitive, there's no panel pager
> to change them and no window animation on switch so if I accidently
> press win-tab I just get all my windows disappearing :(
>
> >      I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled
> like
> >      rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be
> very
> >      useful if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking about
> >      buttons on the window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep
> Above
> >      Others", and I'm quite sure most of the new user not even knows it
> can
> >      be done, instead once is there it's really easy to understand how
> and
> >      when to use it.
> >      Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by
> >      default is the ability to change the transparency of a window just
> >      pressing ALT and rolling the mouse wheel.
>
> First question to ask is why are these not turned on upstream?
> There's a danger with default like this that users will active them
> accidently and have no ide awhat happened or how to revert (like
> pressing win-tab).
>
> >    I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the job
>
> Ug, we don't want to take up extra screen space better used by
> applications.
>
> Let the discussion continue.. :)
>
> Jonathan
>
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Pozdrawiam, T. Dudzik
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