Browser selection from Ubiquity

Tres Finocchiaro fatbuttlarry at gmail.com
Fri Feb 1 15:57:46 UTC 2013


>
> Sure, but downloading a browser on Linux is so much more different
> than it is on Windows / OS X.
> My primary aim with opening this discussion was not to decide which
> browser we should ship on the ISO, but having a user friendly way in
> which a first time user can install an alternative browser.


This is simply not true.  Between the Kubuntu Software Installer for
Firefox and the pre-packaged .DEB files that Google provides for Chrome,
installing a browser in Linux has never been easier.

If you're worried about someone downloading the wrong version, that could
be said for any installer on any OS.

Downloading may be "different", however I would argue that for ease of use,
you should ask the Mozilla project to modify their home page to launch the
apt:// url when the big green Download button us pressed.  This would
likely need coordination with some Ubuntu cross-reference of OS version to
apt url that the community could maintain.  Perhaps lower under the green
button would be an option to install manually.  Unfortunately, since the
version through apt would be slightly dated, this would also warrant a
disclaimer above the download button that the version may be out of date.

If you want ease of use, make this
page<http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/> (en
version linked) -- the page the rest of the world uses to
install Firefox -- actually install Firefox, not download a tarball that's
confusing to the users you are trying to represent.

-Tres

-Tres

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Volkan Gezer <volkangezer at gmail.com> wrote:

> En İyi Dileklerimle,
> Volkan GEZER
> volkangezer at gmail.com
>
>
> 2013/2/1 Nowardev-Team <nowardev at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/1 Rick Timmis <rick.timmis at abazander.com>
> >>
> >> My take is as follows
> >>
> >> I believe we should look to keep things simple and unified. Kubuntu has
> >> set out its stall as a default KDE experience, it should stick with
> that.
> >>
> >> encouraging more users to "Try Out" Rekonq, grows the users and testing
> >> community, and provides the potential for greater feedback, and
> increased
> >> development for the upstream project. This is true for the whole KDE
> >> package set.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > if you go here http://www.kubuntu.org/ you will read
> >
> > Kubuntu, making your PC friendly
> >
> >
> > and if you know what is ubuntu you should understand that ubuntu is NOT a
> > distro for testing software
> > it's linux made simple for end-user. you wanna support rekonq well make
> an
> > icon that will install rekonq instead here we got the opposite.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I do not like the idea, of adding questions to the installer, in fact I
> >> feel that it would be better to remove questions, ask less, assume more.
> >> Whilst our technically savvy users may not appreciate this, think about
> >> the
> >> broader audience.
> >>
> >> We're are trying to persuade Sally Smith, who bought her Laptop from a
> >> local retail store, all fully loaded with all sorts of software. All she
> >> had to do was switch it on and give it a user name and set her password.
> >>
> >> That's what we're competing with, so we must try to recreate that user
> >> experience in our own way.
> >>
> >> However, you make an excellent point about users not knowing about
> >> Software Centre, but perhaps this could be better served with some
> >> explanatory information that is presented as the installer takes care of
> >> business
> >>
> >> ATB
> >>
> >> Rick Timmis
> >
> >
> > if you do a good installer the first things will be
> >
> > * the partition stuff
> > *software to install
> >
>
> I am also aggree with this.
> Before there was a saying about choosing between minimal installation
> or custom installation. When it is custom, can users pick their
> favourite softwares before installation? For example in openSUSE they
> allow everything to be chosen before installation (maybe with yast ,
> but I dont know). So basics program installations can be selected. If
> user selects these programs,  then these may be added to their
> Favourite tab in Kickoff.
>
> > *keyboard language and user password stuff
> >
> > then the computer can do all the installation by itself wihout user
> actions
> >
> > so adding a question is good , users are not stupid i think a more
> question
> > will not kill them expecially if they want install linux that is not a
> ultra
> > easy task.
>
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