KDE Telepathy or Kopete

James Cain james.cain.25 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 27 17:42:31 UTC 2012

Jonathan's points below tend to sway me towards shipping with KTP. and
ditching Kopete. All things being equal (I think there are valid arguments
on both sides here), most usage cases today and going forward would have
users wanting Facebook and GTalk integration as opposed to Groupwise, QQ,
or Yahoo...

Also, security risks going forward on a 5 year LTS release would seem more
likely to be promptly-addressed on an active code base.

This also means MANY more users, and likely a faster development rate than
would otherwise be the case with KTP missing or only available by adding
some obscure repo...

I do think that notification integration is needed, however.

- James Cain*

Jonathan Riddell* jriddell at ubuntu.com
*Mon Feb 13 19:00:56 UTC 2012*

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On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 07:53:05PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
>* Hi, I think that LTS version should have stable IM client. Kopete is old but*>* more stable and tested.*
What makes you think it is more stable?

There are many problems and bugs with Kopete not least it doesn't work
for modern IM uses like GTalk, Facebook, Bonjour.

Kopete is unmaintained so it's problems won't go away, KDE Telepathy
is and has active upstreams so we can poke them at problems we find.

Currently I'm minded to put kde-telepathy on the CD before feature
freeze with the option to take it out if we find major problems before


On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 05:47:40 PM David Edmundson wrote:
> > > I don't think we need to worry a lot about Kopete maintenance other
> than
> > > security issues.  It does what it does.  It doesn't do what it doesn't
> > > do. The code doesn't churn much from release to release, so there's not
> > > a lot of risk that a year or two from now some serious performance bug
> > > will be identified that someone will have to figure out without help
> > > from (the almost dead) upstream.
> >
> > That's not entirely true in the case of IM. IM is a bit different
> > because it relies on servers and protocols (often reversed engineered)
> > which can randomly change. MSN (for example) are known to change their
> > protocol and after a while not allow anyone using the older version.
> >
> > So a bug can "appear" later, which doesn't exist now. Which is awful
> > but quite likely.
> This is a good point, but I think my points about backportability of fixes
> from
> later releases apply here too (up to the point where KDE Telepathy achieves
> world domination).
> Scott K
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