R: RFC: Switch to Firefox and a 1.5 GB image

LucaTringali TRINGALINVENT at libero.it
Tue Dec 6 07:44:35 UTC 2011

It would be illegal? But, if it's true, why I can install the same non free 
packages from aptitude? Wouldn't it be illegal too? I'm not talking about 
adding other non free tools, just deliver Kubuntu with (preinstalled) the same 
non-free programs you can find in aptitude.
I'm proposing to distribute a CD with only free software, and a DVD with all 
the user can need (including non free software, GTK+, Firefox, servicemenus, 
GIMP, Digikam,  VLC, mscorefonts, etc...). The official release can be the only-
free-software CD, but there could be an option for all those people that want 
to have everything ready.
For example, it could be also a good idea to put on the DVD the nvidia/ati 
official drivers, so that it's easy to install them also on a computer without 
internet connection. I don't know how works the rest of the world, but in Italy 
we have many areas not covered by a fully working internet connection.

Luca Tringali

>----Messaggio originale----
>Da: macoafi at gmail.com
>Data: 06/12/2011 1.07
>A: "LucaTringali"<TRINGALINVENT at libero.it>, "Kubuntu Developer Discussion"
<kubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
>Ogg: Re: Re: RFC: Switch to Firefox and a 1.5 GB image
>On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:33 PM, LucaTringali <TRINGALINVENT at libero.it> wrote:
>> I think we should stop this religious war between GNOME and KDE 
>> It's clear that KDE applications are better in many cases, but Firefox, 
>> and Inkscape are absolutely better than KDE's alternatives (I like 
>> but it looks like a toy if I think to Firefox).
>Firefox is not made by GNOME. The real problem that keeps GTK apps
>(like Orca, the screenreader) off of Kubuntu when there's no Qt
>alternative is that there's no space to ship GTK.
>> I would also propose to distribute a version of Kubuntu with everything a
>> normal user can need (something like a "home edition"). I talking not only
>> about Firefox preinstalled, but also the flash plugin, all the main codecs, 
>> all the other non free software that a user need to have, in order to 
>> all the beauty and easiness of Kubuntu.
>It'd be illegal (or at least legally questionable enough to open
>Kubuntu & Canonical to lawsuits) in some jurisdictions. We'd need to
>have an all-Free version available anywhere and then one full of the
>non-Free codecs and DVD support and whatnot that's only available in
>places that lack IP-treaties (or whatever they're called...there are
>countries that have made their IP laws match/work with the US's) with
>the US, probably using Geo-IP filtering.
>Mackenzie Morgan

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