kubuntu.org -> wiki: Too many intermediate links, bad website design, Fix would be great. :) ; jor

[Ofir Klinger]

Hi,

In my opinion, the wiki itself shouldn't be used for support and/or help.
Instead, http://help.ubuntu.com/ should be used for this purpose.

I don't think the wiki should be linked from the top menu, since it doesn't
have a clear purpose. New users will get confused from
the wiki, and I think it is better for them to read the information in the
website.

Ofir


On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:38 PM, giovanni_re <john_re at fastmail.us> wrote:

> Hi developers  - Will the kubuntu website maintainers, & wiki managers,
> please read the below & please make the below mentioned relevant,
> important fixes:
> basically:
> 1) Put a link to the KUbuntu wiki on the main kubuntu.com/org page, &
> 2) Repurpose, & redescribe the kubuntu wiki as for being about
> _any_&_all_ information relevant to kubuntu, not merely stuff for
> developers?
>
> Those changes would be an important improvement for the kubuntu
> community, & system.
>
> Thank you.   :)
>
>
> =====
> Clay - thanks for the suggestion.  I'll send it to the kubuntu-devel
> list.
>
> I think it is truly a tragedy (admittedly minor, but tragic nontheless)
> that apparently the relevant developers don't monitor this ku-user list,
> so that user level concerns could get an answer for all the users to
> see, from the relevant website & wiki developers.
>
> Hopefully such developers will read this, & decide to monitor the
> ku-user list more. :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 08:46:45 -0400, "Clay Weber" <claydoh at claydoh.com>
> said:
> > On Friday, September 24, 2010 12:00:35 am giovanni_re wrote:
> > > Hi kubuntu.org website developers - thanks for all your great work. :)
> > >
> > > ==
> > > Here's a test for you to see how difficult the current website is for
> > > new kubuntu users:
> > >
> > > Find several friends or acquaintances who don't use GNU(Linux) yet, but
> > > might be interested. (3-4 should be sufficient.)
> > >
> > > Ask them to do you this favor:
> > >
> > > 1) Go to kubuntu.com
> > > 2) By simply reading the webisite (ie, not doing a search) & clicking
> on
> > > links, find the kubuntu.com main wiki page.
> > >
> > > 3) For you, website developer:
> > > 3a) Time how long it takes them, &
> > > 3b) count how many web pages they had to open & read.
> > >
> > > Anyone reading this list care to try that & post here the results?
> > >
> > > ==
> > > KUbuntu website developers:
> > > 1) Is it on the todo list to make it easier for people to find the
> > > KUbuntu wiki?
> > > 2) Any idea when that will be done?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > This is probably better directed to the kubuntu-devel list,
>
> > Why would a new user, generally speaking, need to use the kubuntu or
> > ubuntu
> > wiki?
>
> Clay - Need? -  "gain benefit from" is both
> 1) the relevant question,
> 2) and the answer.
>
>
> BTW, the kubuntu wiki fails to be the wiki it should be:
> on its page it says it is about development,
> but it should actually be about _all_ aspects of KUbuntu,
> not _merely_ development.
>
>
> This is a bad/unhelpful/harmful_to_the_KUbuntu_community reality:
> "STOP This is the place for people willing to help to improve Ubuntu. If
> you are looking for user help related documentation you are in the wrong
> place."
> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/
>
> The wiki's _#1_MAIN_PURPOSE_ should be for
> "user help related documentation".
>
>
> Hopefully, both the
> a) purpose, &
> b) description on the wiki.kubuntu.com/org page
> can be updated soon to represent that better reality.  :)
>
>
>
> > All the actual
>
> Actual, though incomplete.  Because there is no
> 1) KUbuntu wiki (you know ubuntu is not kubuntu)
> 2) and it should be listed on the main KUbuntu.com page
>
> (Kubuntu.com, [& kubuntu.org], because ubuntu has ubuntu.com.
> & ubuntu.org is not the same organization.)
>
> > support areas are listed in the support page -
> > help.ubuntu.com  the correct wiki for that right in the support page.
> >
>
>
> > (not that there shouldn't be a link to the regular wiki, though)
> Absolutely correct you are, Clay, right there. :)
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