[Bug 1577847] Re: Demote Bazaar to universe?

[Vincent Ladeuil]

> Bazaar development is in maintenance mode and there are not resources
to port it to python 3.

I'm been "maintaining" bzr for the last years being perfectly aware that
the python3 support was important.

I'm a bit surprised to find this bug as the first contact with the
bazaar project but let's start this important discussion nevertheless,
thanks for that.

There have been talks recently on the bazaar mailing list about porting
to python3 but nothing concrete came out of it indeed.

I'm only recently, and slowly, learning the debain and ubuntu packaging
to reduce its burden for bazaar itself, debian and ubuntu (I thought
that would the best use of the copious free time I can devote to that
;).

If nothing is cast in stone yet though, would you be open to discuss
delaying the demoting until python2 itself is demoted ?

bzr is still used in various parts of the infrastructure supporting
ubuntu and I thought talk about taking care of those parts will come
before bzr is demoted, may be you know more than me about that ?

Or may be supporting python2 use of bzr is having costs I don't realize
and you can shed some light on that ?

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Title:
  Demote Bazaar to universe?

Status in bzr package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Release to act on:  Dev (currently 16.10)
  Src: bzr
  Bin: bzr bzr-doc python-bzrlib python-bzrlib-dbg python-bzrlib.tests

  Bazaar development is in maintenance mode and there are not resources to port it to python 3.
  reverse-recommends sorted:
  all in universe - bugs-everywhere bikeshed bzr-dbus bzr-email bzr-loom bzr-pipeline gedit-developer-plugins ikiwiki jhbuild open-font-design-toolkit python-vcstools ubuntu-dev-tools

  From this point on, I ignore any I've already covered that are in
  universe.

  reverse-depends sorted:
   * universe: bzr-builddeb bzr-builder  bzr-explorer bzr-fastimport bzr-git bzr-loom bzr-search bzr-stats bzr-tweet bzr-upload bzr-webdav bzr-xmloutput charm-tools config-manager juju-deployer loggerhead lptools phablet-tools qbzr qct
   * main:
    ** bzrtools
    ** etckeeper (depends on git or mercurual or bzr or darcs)
    ** git-remote-bzr

  reverse-depends -b src:bzr
  Reverse-Build-Depends-Indep:
   * main: bzrtools git-remote-bzr (see above)
   * universe: python-gasp

  Reverse-Build-Depends:
   * universe: mysql-utilities ocamlbricks
   * main?: webapps-applications

  This is not reach for archive action yet, I just wanted to start the
  discussion here.

  Out of the discussion from UOS May 2016 there was talk about demoting
  Bazaar from Main to Universe as part of us moving Python 2 eventually
  to universe.  http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1605/meeting/22675/finish-
  move-to-py3/

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