[Bug 991002] Re: Change name for bn-BD from 'Bengali(Bangladesh)' to 'Bangla(Bangladesh)')

Christian Perrier bubulle at debian.org
Mon Oct 22 04:53:40 UTC 2012


Whatever comments above, my stance is still the same. Iso-codes
references the standard, whatever the standard is : "good" or "wrong".
We even list "Taiwan, province of China" as name for Taiwan and, believe
me, this is way much more controversial than Bengali/Bangla.

In short, if you want us to use Bangla in iso-codes as the English name
for "bn", then get the standard changed.

As I explained already, Ubuntu maintainers are free to patch the package
to use whatever name they think is appropriate. I have no way to prevent
them from doing so, except 8 years experience telling me this is opening
a can of worms.

But, *I* will not patch iso-codes upstream. Neither in the released
tarball, nor in the Debian package. Debian will be right, whatever
"right" is. Ubuntu will be wrong, whatever "wrong" it is. That won't be
the first time that clumsy, short-term solutions are adopted in Ubuntu,
this seems to be the way development works there, sometimes. I really
don't care.

As a kind of compromise, I'll think about the possibility to add a
specific field we could name "common_name" in the ISO-639 XML file. This
is the trick we used for the "Taiwan" issue or the "Macedonia" issue in
ISO-3166. Maybe that could work as people wanting to use iso-codes and
play with alternatives (at the expense of other people not agreeing with
the use of alternatives to complain), to have the possibility of doing
it.

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Title:
  Change name for bn-BD from 'Bengali(Bangladesh)' to
  'Bangla(Bangladesh)')

Status in “iso-codes” package in Ubuntu:
  In Progress
Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
Status in “localechooser” package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in “iso-codes” package in Debian:
  Won't Fix

Bug description:
  The official name for the state language for Bangladesh is Bangla, as
  detailed on section 3, part 1 of the Bangladesh constitution
  (http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/research/bangladesh-constitution.pdf).
  However, language selector continues to refer to this language as
  Bengali (Bangladeh). While Bengali has been historically used as the
  english name for the language during colonial periods, the name
  'Bangla' is more widely used nowadays. It is also the name with which
  native speakers identify the language.

  This package uses Bengali(Bangladesh) as the identifier for language
  code bn-BD. Please change the name to Bangla(Bangladesh).

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: language-selector-gnome 0.79
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-23.36-generic 3.2.14
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu5
  Architecture: amd64
  Date: Sun Apr 29 16:14:25 2012
  PackageArchitecture: all
  ProcEnviron:
   LANGUAGE=bn_BD:bn:en_IN:en_GB:en
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=bn_BD.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: language-selector
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-03-19 (41 days ago)

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