[Bug 991002] Re: Change name for bn-BD from 'Bengali(Bangladesh)' to 'Bangla(Bangladesh)')
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
ubuntu at gunnar.cc
Mon Oct 22 04:46:16 UTC 2012
@Christian
I won't repeat any clarifications with respect to your latest comment (#12) that shafin already made.
After having read both your and shafin's comments carefully, I still
think that the arguments for making the proposed change are more
convincing than the arguments against. The constitution of Bangladesh,
UN ... and also the most commonly used OS. It's highly likely that
sooner or later Bengali will be exchanged for Bangla in the ISO
standards, so this is more like making a change some time before
"upstream" (ISO) does - it's not a matter of introducing a permanent
difference.
I understand that you are worried about possible consequenses of
patching a language name - the "giant can of worms", as you put it.
Please note that I don't advocate differences to the standard which are
not very well founded; to me the Bangla/Bengali case seems to be an
exceptional case. If we keep the bar high for even discussing
exceptions, I'm quite sure that approving this proposal won't cause a
flood of similar requests.
Nevertheless, unlike me you have a long experience of the iso-codes
package, and I fear that you may think I'm naive. I have asked David
Planella, Ubuntu's translations coordinator, to review the merge
proposal including the comments in this bug report. I would suggest that
we await his input before discussing this topic further.
On 2012-10-21 18:56, Christian Perrier wrote:
> By the way, I renamed bn_IN.po to bn.po.
Thanks! That's clearly a step in the right direction.
@shafin
Are you possibly aware of any attempts to call ISO's attention to the issue and make them change the name in the standard?
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Title:
Change name for bn-BD from 'Bengali(Bangladesh)' to
'Bangla(Bangladesh)')
Status in “iso-codes” package in Ubuntu:
In Progress
Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu:
Invalid
Status in “localechooser” package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in “iso-codes” package in Debian:
Won't Fix
Bug description:
The official name for the state language for Bangladesh is Bangla, as
detailed on section 3, part 1 of the Bangladesh constitution
(http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/research/bangladesh-constitution.pdf).
However, language selector continues to refer to this language as
Bengali (Bangladeh). While Bengali has been historically used as the
english name for the language during colonial periods, the name
'Bangla' is more widely used nowadays. It is also the name with which
native speakers identify the language.
This package uses Bengali(Bangladesh) as the identifier for language
code bn-BD. Please change the name to Bangla(Bangladesh).
ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: language-selector-gnome 0.79
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-23.36-generic 3.2.14
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-23-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu5
Architecture: amd64
Date: Sun Apr 29 16:14:25 2012
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
LANGUAGE=bn_BD:bn:en_IN:en_GB:en
PATH=(custom, no user)
LANG=bn_BD.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: language-selector
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-03-19 (41 days ago)
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