[Bug 783512] Re: Upstart Web sites with different news

James Hunt 783512 at bugs.launchpad.net
Tue Jul 12 11:19:39 UTC 2011


We do indeed seem to have an embarrassment of riches here :-)

I for one subscribe to the "dry" principle so would welcome a simpler
method of announcing new Upstart releases as right now it is time
consuming and -- as evinced by this bug -- error prone. A few points:

- upstart.at is owned by Keybuk. I believe the intention was to move all
Upstart information to upstart.at and leave upstart.ubuntu.com as an
"archive" for older releases. However, this view may have changed now?

- I'm somewhat surprised that lp doesn't automatically make an announcement when a new "release" is created (this isn't dry :)
  Maybe there is some way to configure a project to do this? I've raised bug 809258 anyway and have manually created an "announcement" for Upstart 1.3.

- upstart.ubuntu.com needs to by manually updated (by writing HTML -
just like the good ol' days :-)

- upstart.ubuntu.com does not have all the releases - only those up to
0.6.7. newer releases are on lp only.

- upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki is out of date and has been largely subsumed
by the Upstart Cookbook.

- upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki has a separate wiki to wiki.ubuntu.com as
shown by the differing theme. It's unclear why this is (still?)
required.


My preference would be to:

(1) Resolve the function of upstart.at.

(2) If (1) is dropped (?), maybe have upstart.ubuntu.com redirect to
launchpad.net/upstart.

(3) Selectively migrate the content of upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki to wiki.ubuntu.com/Upstart/.
      It needs careful editing since most of it relates to older releases, so we need to decide to either drop those parts
      or retain them and mark individual sections as "Upstart 0.6.x and newer" maybe?

(4) Since all upstart releases are available on lp, remove the copies on
upstart.ubuntu.com.

(5) Avoid the need to have to edit HTML by relying on LP's magical
powers :-)

Comments anyone?

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Title:
  Upstart Web sites with different news

Status in NULL Project:
  New
Status in “upstart” package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  https://launchpad.net/upstart has, as its most recent "announcement", the release of Upstart 1.2 on 2011-03-22.
  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/  has, as its the most "Recent News", the release of Upstart 0.6.7 on 2010-12-14.
  http://upstart.at/ has, as its most recent news, the release of an Upstart Cookbook on 2011-03-25.

  Get it together. :-) If you want mindshare, you need a single up-to-
  date Web site -- or at most, two Web sites with a clear understanding
  of which is a subset of the other.

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