edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 9, Issue 20
Michael Steigerwald
mikesteigerwald at gmail.com
Tue Feb 27 19:18:03 GMT 2007
Thanks for all the great ideas. If I never fix the problem, I'm certainly
learning a lot.
Alas, the saga continues. I think I've zapped all of the partitions. At
least, when I list them from fdisk, it says there are no partitions, and 100
GB of free space.
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> 1. Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Michael Steigerwald)
> 2. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)
> 3. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)
> 4. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Bryan Quigley)
> 5. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Scott Ledyard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:15:54 -0600
> From: "Michael Steigerwald" <mikesteigerwald at gmail.com>
> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> To: edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
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> I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an
> NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I
> tried
> to install Windows.
>
> I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard
> drives
> to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat the
> whole
> disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the NTFS
> partition.
>
> I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla
> (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g,
> Norton, for?
>
> TIA for any ideas.
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> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:24:27 -0500
> From: "Simon Ruiz" <sruiz at mccsc.edu>
> Subject: RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> To: <Steiger at UMich.edu>, <edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the disk, and so
> if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first partition on
> the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an valid install
> partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when installing it
> second, but there are quite a few extra little complications to deal with.
>
> I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first. This is the only
> way I've ever done it, myself.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: edubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com on behalf of Michael
> Steigerwald
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
> To: edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an
> NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I tried
> to install Windows.
>
> I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard
> drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat
> the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the
> NTFS partition.
>
> I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla
> (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g,
> Norton, for?
>
> TIA for any ideas.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:07:43 -0500
> From: "Simon Ruiz" <sruiz at mccsc.edu>
> Subject: RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> To: <Steiger at UMich.edu>, <edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <1192B5F84F230845B9A793EE5B5BA63F067E4ED7 at EXCHANGE.mccsc.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
> commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the partitions.
> Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the entire
> hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now, I'm
> not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is
> plugged into the primary master position.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:mikesteigerwald at gmail.com]
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM
> To: Simon Ruiz
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine.
>
> Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or
> wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again?
>
> TIA
>
>
> On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <sruiz at mccsc.edu> wrote:
>
> Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0) position
> on the motherboard? That's all I can think of.
>
> There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could
> do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard
> disk.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:mikesteigerwald at gmail.com]
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM
> To: Simon Ruiz
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even start
> over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard drives to
> install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely
> reformat the drive?
>
>
> On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <sruiz at mccsc.edu> wrote:
>
> Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the
> disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first
> partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an
> valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when
> installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little complications
> to deal with.
>
> I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first.
> This is the only way I've ever done it, myself.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: edubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com on behalf of
> Michael Steigerwald
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
> To: edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or
> XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new
> error when I tried to install Windows.
>
> I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find
> any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to
> reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even
> see the NTFS partition.
>
> I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get
> into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need
> to use, e.g, Norton, for?
>
> TIA for any ideas.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Steigerwald
> 4041 12th Ave S.
> Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239
> Steiger at UMich.edu
> 651.261.2098
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Steigerwald
> 4041 12th Ave S.
> Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239
> Steiger at UMich.edu
> 651.261.2098
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:45 -0500
> From: "Bryan Quigley" <gquigs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> To: "Simon Ruiz" <sruiz at mccsc.edu>
> Cc: edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com, Steiger at umich.edu
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Could it be a SATA drive that Windows doesn't have the drivers for? That
> would create the case where edubuntu can see the drive but XP can't.
> Have you installed XP on this machine before?
> -Bryan
>
> On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <sruiz at mccsc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
> > commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the
> partitions.
> > Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the
> entire
> > hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now,
> I'm
> > not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is
> > plugged into the primary master position.
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> > Sim?n
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:mikesteigerwald at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM
> > To: Simon Ruiz
> > Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> >
> >
> > I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine.
> >
> > Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or
> > wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <sruiz at mccsc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0)
> position
> > on the motherboard? That's all I can think of.
> >
> > There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could
> > do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard
> > disk.
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> > Sim?n
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:mikesteigerwald at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM
> > To: Simon Ruiz
> > Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> >
> >
> > Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even
> start
> > over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard
> drives to
> > install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely
> > reformat the drive?
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <sruiz at mccsc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on
> the
> > disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the
> first
> > partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as
> an
> > valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when
> > installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little
> complications
> > to deal with.
> >
> > I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first.
> > This is the only way I've ever done it, myself.
> >
> > Best of luck!
> >
> > Sim?n
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: edubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com on behalf
> of
> > Michael Steigerwald
> > Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
> > To: edubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or
> > XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a
> new
> > error when I tried to install Windows.
> >
> > I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can
> find
> > any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had
> to
> > reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't
> even
> > see the NTFS partition.
> >
> > I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get
> > into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I
> need
> > to use, e.g, Norton, for?
> >
> > TIA for any ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Steigerwald
> > 4041 12th Ave S.
> > Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239
> > Steiger at UMich.edu
> > 651.261.2098
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Steigerwald
> > 4041 12th Ave S.
> > Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239
> > Steiger at UMich.edu
> > 651.261.2098
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:36 -0500
> From: "Scott Ledyard" <scott at redboot.biz>
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
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> I'd go with the previous post from Simon that says:
>
> > You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
> > commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the
> partitions.
>
> This same thing happened not long ago to me. Just zap all partitions and
> reboot from the Win CD to reinstall. You don't have to establish an NTFS
> partition. Windows doesn't care if the disk is blank. It just doesn't want
> active partitions.
> BTW, a handy, fast booting CD to have around is GParted all by itself.
> Never
> think about using Partition Magic again. It's available at
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
>
> Scott
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